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		<title>By: DdC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DdC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 21:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The buzzword &quot;marijuana&quot; has more derogatory connotations than having consensual sex with an employee. But MPP has always been incrementalists making a living not removing Nixon&#039;s lie. They continue the Ganjawar. Again if someone is being harassed or threatened there are laws on the books. Excusing their cowardice on some pretense they all cash their paychecks but really really want to legalize pot? Give me a break. They&#039;re politicians with a Ganja leaf. They continue this 40 year terror campaign treading water, caging otherwise productive citizens and for what? A quasi legal initiatives in some places when zealot sheriffs are kept calm? But not binding Federally or even locally if city counsels wish to tweak it? The Supremest ruled today for the same corporations selling the Ganjawar. To keep competition out. Thats it. So once again the PC crowd and Cowards rule?

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/ntg5wy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Al Capone&lt;/A&gt; and &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.hempfarm.org/Papers/Shadow_of_the_Swastika.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Watergate&lt;/A&gt; were red herrings to divert the countries attention from the Fascist acts of eliminating competition. Booze/Ethanol or &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/1092&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ganja//Hemp&lt;/A&gt;. While Neocons and Neokrats continue to bicker over nonsense. Farmers still can&#039;t grow. Drugs and Ganja are Gateways to prison profits and cop-shops bloated budgets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The buzzword &#8220;marijuana&#8221; has more derogatory connotations than having consensual sex with an employee. But MPP has always been incrementalists making a living not removing Nixon&#8217;s lie. They continue the Ganjawar. Again if someone is being harassed or threatened there are laws on the books. Excusing their cowardice on some pretense they all cash their paychecks but really really want to legalize pot? Give me a break. They&#8217;re politicians with a Ganja leaf. They continue this 40 year terror campaign treading water, caging otherwise productive citizens and for what? A quasi legal initiatives in some places when zealot sheriffs are kept calm? But not binding Federally or even locally if city counsels wish to tweak it? The Supremest ruled today for the same corporations selling the Ganjawar. To keep competition out. Thats it. So once again the PC crowd and Cowards rule?</p>
<p><a HREF="http://tinyurl.com/ntg5wy" rel="nofollow">Al Capone</a> and <a HREF="http://www.hempfarm.org/Papers/Shadow_of_the_Swastika.html" rel="nofollow">Watergate</a> were red herrings to divert the countries attention from the Fascist acts of eliminating competition. Booze/Ethanol or <a HREF="http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/1092" rel="nofollow">Ganja//Hemp</a>. While Neocons and Neokrats continue to bicker over nonsense. Farmers still can&#8217;t grow. Drugs and Ganja are Gateways to prison profits and cop-shops bloated budgets.</p>
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		<title>By: Hope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;First, I wouldn’t sexually harass any co-workers.&quot;

Good idea right off the bat.

You do have a bit of a plan. It looks pretty good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;First, I wouldn’t sexually harass any co-workers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good idea right off the bat.</p>
<p>You do have a bit of a plan. It looks pretty good.</p>
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		<title>By: DavesNotHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavesNotHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope, that was funny. Probably because its spot on.

First, I wouldn&#039;t sexually harass any co-workers. But I think MPP has a pretty good model for attacking the issue actually. Grab all the low hanging fruit you can, which has been referendums and initiatives and going after some state legislation. Identify places you can get wins, go out and get them, and repeat. And now that marijuana legislation is actually being introduced and voted on, expanding to candidate questionnaires, grades, and voting records and doing more model legislation for every state. A knowledgeable board of directors could consider the options and define the mission statement, until the donors start telling you what to do anyway.

I pulled $50,000 out of my ass, but for that you could probably assemble a diverse board with experience and enthusiasm, form the org, get a website going, start internet outreach, build a fund-raising campaign, and see if it flies. Off the top of my head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope, that was funny. Probably because its spot on.</p>
<p>First, I wouldn&#8217;t sexually harass any co-workers. But I think MPP has a pretty good model for attacking the issue actually. Grab all the low hanging fruit you can, which has been referendums and initiatives and going after some state legislation. Identify places you can get wins, go out and get them, and repeat. And now that marijuana legislation is actually being introduced and voted on, expanding to candidate questionnaires, grades, and voting records and doing more model legislation for every state. A knowledgeable board of directors could consider the options and define the mission statement, until the donors start telling you what to do anyway.</p>
<p>I pulled $50,000 out of my ass, but for that you could probably assemble a diverse board with experience and enthusiasm, form the org, get a website going, start internet outreach, build a fund-raising campaign, and see if it flies. Off the top of my head.</p>
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		<title>By: Hope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DavesNotHere. What would you do if you got a shot at it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DavesNotHere. What would you do if you got a shot at it?</p>
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		<title>By: DavesNotHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavesNotHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know anything about this but it doesn&#039;t &quot;look good&quot;. One thing to consider also is that running him out of MPP isn&#039;t the only possible punishment. If MPP is tainted, take them out with a new organization that does what they do, only better. If this &quot;thing&quot; matters, supporters will come. If they don&#039;t come, change the focus to something MPP isn&#039;t doing, such as a candidate focus. 

Cannabis Policy Project? Anyone in? Give me $50,000 and I&#039;ll give it shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know anything about this but it doesn&#8217;t &#8220;look good&#8221;. One thing to consider also is that running him out of MPP isn&#8217;t the only possible punishment. If MPP is tainted, take them out with a new organization that does what they do, only better. If this &#8220;thing&#8221; matters, supporters will come. If they don&#8217;t come, change the focus to something MPP isn&#8217;t doing, such as a candidate focus. </p>
<p>Cannabis Policy Project? Anyone in? Give me $50,000 and I&#8217;ll give it shot.</p>
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		<title>By: Hope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sorry for Rob he doesn’t have better friends…&quot;

Yeah. Probably from &quot;acting like a dick&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sorry for Rob he doesn’t have better friends…&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah. Probably from &#8220;acting like a dick&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: allan420</title>
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		<dc:creator>allan420</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 06:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is what friends are for. A friend would have said &quot;Rob, you&#039;re acting like a dick, literally. Knock that shit off.&quot; Sorry for Rob he doesn&#039;t have better friends...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is what friends are for. A friend would have said &#8220;Rob, you&#8217;re acting like a dick, literally. Knock that shit off.&#8221; Sorry for Rob he doesn&#8217;t have better friends&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LTR</title>
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		<dc:creator>LTR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 06:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure what you meant by that last paragraph &quot;ganjawar&quot; etc.

I will reserve judgment on the MPP, it&#039;s whatever. It just angers me that at such an important time bad press is coming out about an organization that does a heck of a lot to end marijuana prohibition. 

Kampia, if the allegations are true, acted recklessly enough to tick off quite a few employees. There is a difference between being horny, and being horny and acting on those feelings and sexually harassing employees. It looks bad if nothing else which is disappointing, but I suppose we don&#039;t know with a good deal of certainty. 

The thing is, I can completely understand why the employees would not come forth before. It&#039;s because everyone working at the MPP wants marijuana legal and believes it with a passion. They COULD have been struggling between what they saw as an injustice in Rob&#039;s behavior towards women vs. the need to keep Rob going because he is important to the cause. They saw this last action as the straw that broke the camels back perhaps? 

This is speculation, but from what I gather, this seems reasonably accurate based on the evidence at hand, albeit insufficient evidence.

 I&#039;ll reserve judgment and take back what I said before for now. Let&#039;s see what comes of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure what you meant by that last paragraph &#8220;ganjawar&#8221; etc.</p>
<p>I will reserve judgment on the MPP, it&#8217;s whatever. It just angers me that at such an important time bad press is coming out about an organization that does a heck of a lot to end marijuana prohibition. </p>
<p>Kampia, if the allegations are true, acted recklessly enough to tick off quite a few employees. There is a difference between being horny, and being horny and acting on those feelings and sexually harassing employees. It looks bad if nothing else which is disappointing, but I suppose we don&#8217;t know with a good deal of certainty. </p>
<p>The thing is, I can completely understand why the employees would not come forth before. It&#8217;s because everyone working at the MPP wants marijuana legal and believes it with a passion. They COULD have been struggling between what they saw as an injustice in Rob&#8217;s behavior towards women vs. the need to keep Rob going because he is important to the cause. They saw this last action as the straw that broke the camels back perhaps? </p>
<p>This is speculation, but from what I gather, this seems reasonably accurate based on the evidence at hand, albeit insufficient evidence.</p>
<p> I&#8217;ll reserve judgment and take back what I said before for now. Let&#8217;s see what comes of it.</p>
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		<title>By: DdC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DdC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 03:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;I am more concerned with what some of the ex employees of the MPP said about Rob’s behavior WITHIN the workplace towards women.&lt;/I&gt;

The key word is &quot;ex&quot; employees. If Kampia is hyper-sexualized what ever that is, they used to call it being horny. It was never a crime and to my knowledge never thought of as deviant or an addiction. If it does have control over his actions, it doesn&#039;t have control over the other employees who obviously didn&#039;t think it was of great enough concern to deal with it. Would you let some suit molest your little sister and then whine about it or deal with it? If Kampia was inappropriate then when it happened was when it should have been dealt with. This sounds more like a prohibitionists swifboating. Why does this come out now? Was the chick forced or feel threatened, yet continued to work there. Weasel justice is all I see.

&lt;I&gt;I personally support incrementalism as THIS juncture but don’t wish to debate it.&lt;/I&gt;

Well you&#039;re not alone but you are responsible for the Ganjawar. Avoiding the truth to gain political seats is cowardice. But I don&#039;t want to debate it either. No debate. Ganja is or it ain&#039;t. Thousands of years has proven it is. Only debates are by those ConPromising or Profiting on perpetuating the war, not ending it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I am more concerned with what some of the ex employees of the MPP said about Rob’s behavior WITHIN the workplace towards women.</i></p>
<p>The key word is &#8220;ex&#8221; employees. If Kampia is hyper-sexualized what ever that is, they used to call it being horny. It was never a crime and to my knowledge never thought of as deviant or an addiction. If it does have control over his actions, it doesn&#8217;t have control over the other employees who obviously didn&#8217;t think it was of great enough concern to deal with it. Would you let some suit molest your little sister and then whine about it or deal with it? If Kampia was inappropriate then when it happened was when it should have been dealt with. This sounds more like a prohibitionists swifboating. Why does this come out now? Was the chick forced or feel threatened, yet continued to work there. Weasel justice is all I see.</p>
<p><i>I personally support incrementalism as THIS juncture but don’t wish to debate it.</i></p>
<p>Well you&#8217;re not alone but you are responsible for the Ganjawar. Avoiding the truth to gain political seats is cowardice. But I don&#8217;t want to debate it either. No debate. Ganja is or it ain&#8217;t. Thousands of years has proven it is. Only debates are by those ConPromising or Profiting on perpetuating the war, not ending it.</p>
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		<title>By: LTR</title>
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		<dc:creator>LTR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 02:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue isn&#039;t so much about the actual sex outside the workplace. I am more concerned with what some of the ex employees of the MPP said about Rob&#039;s behavior WITHIN the workplace towards women. I cannot know for sure that it&#039;s true, but him going to sex therapy certainly doesn&#039;t make this seem as trivial as a one-time mistake. There had to have been some type of pattern that the board thought was semi-destructive. 

I personally support incrementalism as THIS juncture but don&#039;t wish to debate it.</description>
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<p>I personally support incrementalism as THIS juncture but don&#8217;t wish to debate it.</p>
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