Comments on: Telling the story http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/12/telling-the-story/ by Pete Guither Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:24:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: DdC http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/12/telling-the-story/comment-page-1/#comment-5867 DdC Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:37:23 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5032#comment-5867 <a HREF="http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v09/n1141/a05.html?1042" rel="nofollow">HIT MEN KILL MEXICAN HERO'S FAMILY</A> The brazen murder of several family members of a Mexican Naval hero threatens to start a dangerous new chapter in the country's drug war, in which cartels increasingly resort to terror tactics to try to force the government to back off. HIT MEN KILL MEXICAN HERO’S FAMILY
The brazen murder of several family members of a Mexican Naval hero threatens to start a dangerous new chapter in the country’s drug war, in which cartels increasingly resort to terror tactics to try to force the government to back off.

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]]> By: kaptinemo http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/12/telling-the-story/comment-page-1/#comment-5850 kaptinemo Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:42:08 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5032#comment-5850 Well, the <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-fg-mexico-revenge-attack23-2009dec23,0,2159235.story" rel="nofollow"><i>narcos</i> have already made a 'press release' of their own</a>, killing some of the family members of the Mex marine killed in the raid. That in an of itself should say something about their reach and capabilities. <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/06/24/MNG23QIJH11.DTL" rel="nofollow">Desertions in the Mex military are already at a new height.</a>This is only going to make that worse. But I guess so long as it's just poor, desperate 'Messikins' who get whacked, the predominantly 'rabiblancos' in their ivory towers in <i>War</i>shington won't care. (Warning: the next link is to DEA. Proceed at your own risk!) <a href="http://www.justice.gov/dea/pubs/pressrel/pr121709.html" rel="nofollow">And the DEA has the nerve to crow that they're 'winning'</a>. Dis<i>gust</i>ing. Well, the narcos have already made a ‘press release’ of their own, killing some of the family members of the Mex marine killed in the raid. That in an of itself should say something about their reach and capabilities.

Desertions in the Mex military are already at a new height.This is only going to make that worse.

But I guess so long as it’s just poor, desperate ‘Messikins’ who get whacked, the predominantly ‘rabiblancos’ in their ivory towers in Warshington won’t care.

(Warning: the next link is to DEA. Proceed at your own risk!) And the DEA has the nerve to crow that they’re ‘winning’. Disgusting.

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]]> By: Tim http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/12/telling-the-story/comment-page-1/#comment-5777 Tim Tue, 22 Dec 2009 02:42:54 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5032#comment-5777 Yep, I've seen this happen. What likely happened is that a Mexican official saw the first version, called her editor, and offered a Calderon quote. Presstitution at its finest. Yep, I’ve seen this happen. What likely happened is that a Mexican official saw the first version, called her editor, and offered a Calderon quote. Presstitution at its finest.

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]]> By: claygooding http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/12/telling-the-story/comment-page-1/#comment-5771 claygooding Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:04:01 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5032#comment-5771 At what point does the "drug war" in Mexico become a revolution? Will the cartels be remembered as terrorists or patriots? History is written by the victors. All revolts throughout history has been the havenots taking it from the haves. And where will that leave the US,after paying 1.4 billion to Mexico to kill these people? And if Calderon wins or chases the cartels out of Mexico,what will the northern part of Mexico use for money? Just as the world banks were kept solvent with drug money,Northern Mexico's economy,therefore,Mexico's economy rides on pot. Who will have too help them feed their population and help them restructure their economy? The smart thing would be for the cartels to relocate to a country that has had all the United States and the DEA they will take and open up Cancundam. With all the entertainment that Mexico has too offer,added to tourist packages of every illicit drug on the market,the prescription drugs available through Mexico's doctors at cheaper prices,they could build a Shangri-La. At what point does the “drug war” in Mexico become a revolution? Will the cartels be remembered as terrorists or patriots? History is written by the victors.
All revolts throughout history has been the havenots taking it from the haves.
And where will that leave the US,after paying 1.4 billion to Mexico to kill these people?
And if Calderon wins or chases the cartels out of Mexico,what will the northern part of Mexico use for money?
Just as the world banks were kept solvent with drug money,Northern Mexico’s economy,therefore,Mexico’s economy rides on pot.
Who will have too help them feed their population and help them restructure their economy?
The smart thing would be for the cartels to relocate to a country that has had all the United States and the DEA
they will take and open up Cancundam.
With all the entertainment that Mexico has too offer,added to tourist packages of every illicit drug on the market,the prescription drugs available through Mexico’s doctors at cheaper prices,they could build a Shangri-La.

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]]> By: Chris http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/12/telling-the-story/comment-page-1/#comment-5770 Chris Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:16:02 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5032#comment-5770 I've been posting a topic on some private forms about Tijuana. Several people who live there have been posting, saying how "I don't know what it's like to live there" etc and defending the use of force against the cartels (basically they all agree to just kill everyone involved in drug trafficking). Other people reading the thread are interpreting this as credibility for their ideas, simply because they live there. Their biggest wish is to have the cartels removed from Mexico, but due to their blind anger and emotion, they won't consider the logical alternative that legalizing drugs in the united states will stop the cartel's source of money. I tell them alternatives, look at other south american countries that have fought the drug war, and they call me a "pot addict" and dismiss anything I say because it's not asking for the only think they can think of to do. It's stupid. I’ve been posting a topic on some private forms about Tijuana. Several people who live there have been posting, saying how “I don’t know what it’s like to live there” etc and defending the use of force against the cartels (basically they all agree to just kill everyone involved in drug trafficking). Other people reading the thread are interpreting this as credibility for their ideas, simply because they live there. Their biggest wish is to have the cartels removed from Mexico, but due to their blind anger and emotion, they won’t consider the logical alternative that legalizing drugs in the united states will stop the cartel’s source of money. I tell them alternatives, look at other south american countries that have fought the drug war, and they call me a “pot addict” and dismiss anything I say because it’s not asking for the only think they can think of to do. It’s stupid.

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]]> By: DdC http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/12/telling-the-story/comment-page-1/#comment-5765 DdC Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:51:48 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5032#comment-5765 Greg Palast shows up on Democracy Now occassionally, with his Indiana Jones hat. He does cut through the BS. I enjoyed his interview about Oil Dollars. These are favs among many still pushing for real journalism. Not a lot of mainstream airtime. <a HREF="http://www.michaelparenti.org" rel="nofollow">Michael Parenti</A> <a HREF="http://www.normansolomon.com/" rel="nofollow">Norman Soloman</A> <a HREF="http://www.chomsky.info/" rel="nofollow">Noam Chomsky</A> <a HREF="http://tinyurl.com/yalrr9j" rel="nofollow">Reefer Madness by Eric Schlosser</A> <a HREF="http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/node/21390" rel="nofollow">Freedom Watch with Judge Napolitano on Fox</A> by Barry Cooper I appear for an interview on the Fox News show Freedom Watch with Judge Napolitano. Greg Palast shows up on Democracy Now occassionally, with his Indiana Jones hat. He does cut through the BS. I enjoyed his interview about Oil Dollars. These are favs among many still pushing for real journalism. Not a lot of mainstream airtime.

Michael Parenti

Norman Soloman

Noam Chomsky

Reefer Madness by Eric Schlosser

Freedom Watch with Judge Napolitano on Fox by Barry Cooper
I appear for an interview on the Fox News show Freedom Watch with Judge Napolitano.

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]]> By: revolution-starter http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/12/telling-the-story/comment-page-1/#comment-5764 revolution-starter Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:51:47 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5032#comment-5764 The more I see on this the sicker it is, 400 special forces troops killing 2 guys is a victory? Killing a private citizen that government regulations gave power to a victory? This is an absolute disgrace, and a detestable use of power how can anyone think that this is justifiable and even a remotely good idea? keep fueling the fire... Revolution-starter The more I see on this the sicker it is, 400 special forces troops killing 2 guys is a victory? Killing a private citizen that government regulations gave power to a victory? This is an absolute disgrace, and a detestable use of power how can anyone think that this is justifiable and even a remotely good idea?
keep fueling the fire…
Revolution-starter

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]]> By: kaptinemo http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/12/telling-the-story/comment-page-1/#comment-5751 kaptinemo Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:12:03 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5032#comment-5751 The practice of 'spiking' a story - or modifying it to suit editorial preferences - is as old as news reporting itself. Corporate controllers of media have their agendas, and those agendas are reflected both in the hiring of staffing and what that staff is allowed to write about. This should surprise no one, especially in an age of cut-and-paste journalism. There aren't very many 'muckrakers' on the level of Thomas Nast, Drew Pearson, Jack Anderson, etc. anymore. Most journalism majors aren't interested in invest<i>igation</i>, but invest<i>ment</i>. As in invest<i>ing</i> in their careers via fellating the Invest<i>or</i> Class. They're not about to rock the boat. Our 'friend' Mr. Halsey's a perfect example of that. Two good examples of good old-fashioned investigatory journalism still extant are <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Giordano" rel="nofollow">Al Giordano</a> and <a href="http://www.gregpalast.com/" rel="nofollow">Greg Palast</a> who I read as often as I can. They're not afraid to go, editorial rake in hand, looking for some very nasty muck to turn over. Mr. Giordano has been covering news stories like the crashed CIA plane in Mexico loaded with tons of cocaine that had been previously used in 'special rendition' flights to 'black prisons' where terror suspects have been tortured with US approval. Likewise, Mr. Palast's articles and books are real eye-openers as to what's been going on behind the scenes in the corp-rat/government world. They're definitely worth a look-see. And I wouldn't have known about either of them had it not been for the 'Net. Corp-rat media isn't gonna tell you this stuff... The practice of ‘spiking’ a story – or modifying it to suit editorial preferences – is as old as news reporting itself. Corporate controllers of media have their agendas, and those agendas are reflected both in the hiring of staffing and what that staff is allowed to write about.

This should surprise no one, especially in an age of cut-and-paste journalism. There aren’t very many ‘muckrakers’ on the level of Thomas Nast, Drew Pearson, Jack Anderson, etc. anymore. Most journalism majors aren’t interested in investigation, but investment. As in investing in their careers via fellating the Investor Class. They’re not about to rock the boat. Our ‘friend’ Mr. Halsey’s a perfect example of that.

Two good examples of good old-fashioned investigatory journalism still extant are Al Giordano and Greg Palast who I read as often as I can. They’re not afraid to go, editorial rake in hand, looking for some very nasty muck to turn over.

Mr. Giordano has been covering news stories like the crashed CIA plane in Mexico loaded with tons of cocaine that had been previously used in ‘special rendition’ flights to ‘black prisons’ where terror suspects have been tortured with US approval.

Likewise, Mr. Palast’s articles and books are real eye-openers as to what’s been going on behind the scenes in the corp-rat/government world. They’re definitely worth a look-see.

And I wouldn’t have known about either of them had it not been for the ‘Net. Corp-rat media isn’t gonna tell you this stuff…

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]]> By: Freedom http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/12/telling-the-story/comment-page-1/#comment-5740 Freedom Mon, 21 Dec 2009 06:08:03 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5032#comment-5740 Thanks Pete. Hell if death and carage is proof of victory the yshould just start dropping tactical nukes. All the death caused by that would be a huge victory huh? Clay, I exspect government cencorship of the internet much much sooner, say a year or so but, only if we let them. Thanks Pete.

Hell if death and carage is proof of victory the yshould just start dropping tactical nukes. All the death caused by that would be a huge victory huh?

Clay, I exspect government cencorship of the internet much much sooner, say a year or so but, only if we let them.

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]]> By: truthtechnician http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/12/telling-the-story/comment-page-1/#comment-5725 truthtechnician Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:10:14 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=5032#comment-5725 Excellent work uncovering these two versions, Pete. I'd be very interested to know who chose to revise this and why. Excellent work uncovering these two versions, Pete. I’d be very interested to know who chose to revise this and why.

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