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		<title>By: DdC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DdC</dc:creator>
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		<description>Anecdotal is an overused boring buzzword. Science has concluded the results of Ganja. Anecdotal keeps it prohibited. Anecdotal is only the start of home remedies, not chemicals. Substances have known properties and they constantly react the same way under the same conditions. Tensile strength in Hemp or nausea relief from Ganja either is or it is not. Science and laymen have both proven the results of Ganja and only prohib idiots keep using buzzwords as red herrings.

Homeopathic is the same as Pharmaceuticals in mimicking the body to do what it used to do naturally. Ganja rejuvenates the cells to their original condition or position. The only reason for Ganja prohibition is greed. Ugly mean nasty people keeping this oldest of medicines off the market shelves along with the first harvested crop, Hemp. Science has become or always was the whore of business. Bidding for their masters signing the grant checks. hats why we have no cures since Polio. Too many profits lost to the steel and leather brace companies.

Thats why we don&#039;t research sub atomic substances and spend huge hunks of taxes bombing the moon. Science gave us White Powders, Booze, Aspartame, Saccharin and Agent Orange. Nature gives us Ganja. In addition, using this lame buzzword and disregarding the 40 years of neocon pseudo conservative sabotage. Monopolies on buds, lies, manipulations, cover-ups and red herrings like &quot;Anecdotal&quot;. Political science of the prohibitionists is what is Anecdotal. Censorship doesn&#039;t mean lack of evidence. It means evidence is not examined. Patents finding relief for thousands of years are not Anecdotal! The AMA/FDA are Fascists, corporatists working for profits on products, not science.
Anecdotal This!

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/1092&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ganja/Hemp&lt;/A&gt;

&lt;I&gt;&lt;B&gt;Proven : Cannabis is a safe medicine&lt;/B&gt; by Ian Williams Goddard
CANNABIS DOES NOT CAUSE CANCER
BOSTON, Jan. 30, 1997 (UPI)&lt;/I&gt;
The U.S. federal government has failed to make public its own 1994 study that undercuts its position that marijuana is carcinogenic - a $2 million study by the National Toxicology Program. The program&#039;s deputy director, John Bucher, says the study &quot;found absolutely no evidence of cancer.&quot; In fact, animals that received THC had fewer cancers. Bucher denies his agency had been pressured to shelve the report, saying the delay in making it public was due to a personnel shortage.
&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.ccguide.org.uk/proven.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;continued...&lt;/A&gt;

&lt;I&gt;&lt;B&gt;Is The US Playing Politics With Pot Research?&lt;/B&gt;
By Paul Armentano, Special to Betterhumans, 10/6/2004&lt;/I&gt;
For three decades, politicians and bureaucrats have ignored research on marijuana&#039;s role in cancer prevention. Clinical research published recently in the journals Cancer Research and BMC Medicine touting the ability of cannabis to stave the spread of certain cancers is the latest in a three-decade long line of studies demonstrating pot&#039;s potential as an anticancer agent. Not familiar with this research? You&#039;re not alone. &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/4o4m6&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;continued...&lt;/A&gt;

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://blog.norml.org/2008/07/03/us-government-patents-medical-pot/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;US Government Patents Medical Pot&lt;/A&gt;
&lt;I&gt;July 3rd, 2008 By: Paul Armentano, NORML Deputy Director&lt;/I&gt;

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread24965.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;There&#039;s a Monopoly on Marijuana Growing &amp; Research&lt;/A&gt; &lt;I&gt;By Dave Stancliff
CN Source: Times-Standard August 09, 2009 USA&lt;/I&gt;
I&#039;d like you to meet Dr. Mahmoud ElSohly, the only person in the United States who can grow tons of marijuana and not worry the Feds will bust him. If your company wants to do research on marijuana, he&#039;s the guy to see. Dr. ElSohly&#039;s lab at the University of Mississippi has an exclusive contract with the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), which supplies the pot to approved researchers who study its ill effects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anecdotal is an overused boring buzzword. Science has concluded the results of Ganja. Anecdotal keeps it prohibited. Anecdotal is only the start of home remedies, not chemicals. Substances have known properties and they constantly react the same way under the same conditions. Tensile strength in Hemp or nausea relief from Ganja either is or it is not. Science and laymen have both proven the results of Ganja and only prohib idiots keep using buzzwords as red herrings.</p>
<p>Homeopathic is the same as Pharmaceuticals in mimicking the body to do what it used to do naturally. Ganja rejuvenates the cells to their original condition or position. The only reason for Ganja prohibition is greed. Ugly mean nasty people keeping this oldest of medicines off the market shelves along with the first harvested crop, Hemp. Science has become or always was the whore of business. Bidding for their masters signing the grant checks. hats why we have no cures since Polio. Too many profits lost to the steel and leather brace companies.</p>
<p>Thats why we don&#8217;t research sub atomic substances and spend huge hunks of taxes bombing the moon. Science gave us White Powders, Booze, Aspartame, Saccharin and Agent Orange. Nature gives us Ganja. In addition, using this lame buzzword and disregarding the 40 years of neocon pseudo conservative sabotage. Monopolies on buds, lies, manipulations, cover-ups and red herrings like &#8220;Anecdotal&#8221;. Political science of the prohibitionists is what is Anecdotal. Censorship doesn&#8217;t mean lack of evidence. It means evidence is not examined. Patents finding relief for thousands of years are not Anecdotal! The AMA/FDA are Fascists, corporatists working for profits on products, not science.<br />
Anecdotal This!</p>
<p><a HREF="http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/1092" rel="nofollow">Ganja/Hemp</a></p>
<p><i><b>Proven : Cannabis is a safe medicine</b> by Ian Williams Goddard<br />
CANNABIS DOES NOT CAUSE CANCER<br />
BOSTON, Jan. 30, 1997 (UPI)</i><br />
The U.S. federal government has failed to make public its own 1994 study that undercuts its position that marijuana is carcinogenic &#8211; a $2 million study by the National Toxicology Program. The program&#8217;s deputy director, John Bucher, says the study &#8220;found absolutely no evidence of cancer.&#8221; In fact, animals that received THC had fewer cancers. Bucher denies his agency had been pressured to shelve the report, saying the delay in making it public was due to a personnel shortage.<br />
<a HREF="http://www.ccguide.org.uk/proven.html" rel="nofollow">continued&#8230;</a></p>
<p><i><b>Is The US Playing Politics With Pot Research?</b><br />
By Paul Armentano, Special to Betterhumans, 10/6/2004</i><br />
For three decades, politicians and bureaucrats have ignored research on marijuana&#8217;s role in cancer prevention. Clinical research published recently in the journals Cancer Research and BMC Medicine touting the ability of cannabis to stave the spread of certain cancers is the latest in a three-decade long line of studies demonstrating pot&#8217;s potential as an anticancer agent. Not familiar with this research? You&#8217;re not alone. <a HREF="http://tinyurl.com/4o4m6" rel="nofollow">continued&#8230;</a></p>
<p><a HREF="http://blog.norml.org/2008/07/03/us-government-patents-medical-pot/" rel="nofollow">US Government Patents Medical Pot</a><br />
<i>July 3rd, 2008 By: Paul Armentano, NORML Deputy Director</i></p>
<p><a HREF="http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread24965.shtml" rel="nofollow">There&#8217;s a Monopoly on Marijuana Growing &amp; Research</a> <i>By Dave Stancliff<br />
CN Source: Times-Standard August 09, 2009 USA</i><br />
I&#8217;d like you to meet Dr. Mahmoud ElSohly, the only person in the United States who can grow tons of marijuana and not worry the Feds will bust him. If your company wants to do research on marijuana, he&#8217;s the guy to see. Dr. ElSohly&#8217;s lab at the University of Mississippi has an exclusive contract with the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), which supplies the pot to approved researchers who study its ill effects.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesper Kristensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesper Kristensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couple of thoughts on the nature of proof, evidence, placebo, anecdotes and the such. I&#039;d hate if we started ignoring important scientific issues &quot;because we just know&quot; or got into our head that &quot;placebo can eat my a$$&quot;

Anecdotes are where it all start. Hardly a a thing has been subjected to rigorous scientific scrutiny that didn&#039;t start out as an idea sparked by &quot;someone who saw A happening and the B followed immediately&quot; or &quot;this guy told me he did ibogaine and ever since he&#039;s not been addiction to ...&quot;.

That&#039;s good. It&#039;s just not proof, and it doesn&#039;t help at this stage to just compile 100 similar anectotes, and then another 1000 and then 10.000.

Anecdotal evidence has severe selection biases that may fool even the unreasonable skeptics among us.

We know we tend to look for things that confirm our ideas. &quot;LOOK, he&#039;s a wreck and he smokes marijuana&quot;. Just study the sordid history of homeopathy, that most inefficient &quot;medicine&quot; that&#039;s been outright killed by science, yet still prevails commercially and in the minds of may practitioners because they are not aware how important it is to stay clear of our perceptual pitfalls.

Science gets sophisticated when there is a clear selection protocol that allows us to count both the hits and misses. And the protocol should ideally try to reduce and not increase or ignore confounding variable.

Placebo is also insidious and I&#039;d want to pull out that factor and quantify it. One thing with placebo is its complex and border-line scary nature, yet decent scientists are quite often able to quantify it so that the pure, unadulterated drug effect only remains.

Sure, it&#039;s easier with stuff that&#039;s not blatantly psykoactive. Still, there are study designs that spring to mind. Like the one comparing actual instances of vomiting in cancer patients. A baseline exists if one cares to look for (naseau) untreated individuals and those on placebo shots/pills and a variety of existing medicines designed to minimize naseau and vomiting. One might also adminstrate a &quot;synthetic,  cannabinoid with the same anti-emetic properties and the natural plant, only you don&#039;t get high at all&quot; - it would be lying, of course, but with enough groups getting different stuff and getting different expectations, or even double-blinding everything, would allow reseqarchers to work out these things pretty precisely.

There needs to be some DIFFERENT research these days instead of the blatantly political crap going on where everyone has already written their conclusions before getting started.

It&#039;s like ... we get it, inject a mouse with the THC equivalent of 7 kilos of good hashish had it been tried on a human and it might be a little bit more susceptible to herpes simplex (cold sores). Move on, please.

I just bet the lowered bar for what passes as science in the illicit drug field has attracted some of the worst researchers to the field ever. Ricaurte anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couple of thoughts on the nature of proof, evidence, placebo, anecdotes and the such. I&#8217;d hate if we started ignoring important scientific issues &#8220;because we just know&#8221; or got into our head that &#8220;placebo can eat my a$$&#8221;</p>
<p>Anecdotes are where it all start. Hardly a a thing has been subjected to rigorous scientific scrutiny that didn&#8217;t start out as an idea sparked by &#8220;someone who saw A happening and the B followed immediately&#8221; or &#8220;this guy told me he did ibogaine and ever since he&#8217;s not been addiction to &#8230;&#8221;.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s good. It&#8217;s just not proof, and it doesn&#8217;t help at this stage to just compile 100 similar anectotes, and then another 1000 and then 10.000.</p>
<p>Anecdotal evidence has severe selection biases that may fool even the unreasonable skeptics among us.</p>
<p>We know we tend to look for things that confirm our ideas. &#8220;LOOK, he&#8217;s a wreck and he smokes marijuana&#8221;. Just study the sordid history of homeopathy, that most inefficient &#8220;medicine&#8221; that&#8217;s been outright killed by science, yet still prevails commercially and in the minds of may practitioners because they are not aware how important it is to stay clear of our perceptual pitfalls.</p>
<p>Science gets sophisticated when there is a clear selection protocol that allows us to count both the hits and misses. And the protocol should ideally try to reduce and not increase or ignore confounding variable.</p>
<p>Placebo is also insidious and I&#8217;d want to pull out that factor and quantify it. One thing with placebo is its complex and border-line scary nature, yet decent scientists are quite often able to quantify it so that the pure, unadulterated drug effect only remains.</p>
<p>Sure, it&#8217;s easier with stuff that&#8217;s not blatantly psykoactive. Still, there are study designs that spring to mind. Like the one comparing actual instances of vomiting in cancer patients. A baseline exists if one cares to look for (naseau) untreated individuals and those on placebo shots/pills and a variety of existing medicines designed to minimize naseau and vomiting. One might also adminstrate a &#8220;synthetic,  cannabinoid with the same anti-emetic properties and the natural plant, only you don&#8217;t get high at all&#8221; &#8211; it would be lying, of course, but with enough groups getting different stuff and getting different expectations, or even double-blinding everything, would allow reseqarchers to work out these things pretty precisely.</p>
<p>There needs to be some DIFFERENT research these days instead of the blatantly political crap going on where everyone has already written their conclusions before getting started.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like &#8230; we get it, inject a mouse with the THC equivalent of 7 kilos of good hashish had it been tried on a human and it might be a little bit more susceptible to herpes simplex (cold sores). Move on, please.</p>
<p>I just bet the lowered bar for what passes as science in the illicit drug field has attracted some of the worst researchers to the field ever. Ricaurte anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: DdC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DdC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, there needs to be more drug worrier lobotomy&#039;s.
We gotta stop hiring illiterate bureaucrats,
Or supporting media gossip and dribble.
More research, there hasn&#039;t been a plant researched more,
The past research was re-evalutaions of past research,
including the 1999 IOM, sitting 3 admins at the HHS.
Different results is what these insane futhermuckers mean.

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/4epw2n&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Politics of Pot&lt;/A&gt;

&lt;I&gt;Cannabis Shrinks Tumors: Government Knew in 74&lt;/I&gt;
&lt;B&gt;&quot;The DEA quickly shut down the Virginia study and all further cannabis/tumor research, according to Jack Herer, who reports on the events in his book, The Emperor Wears No Clothes.  In 1976, President Gerald Ford put an end to all public cannabis research and granted exclusive research rights to major pharmaceutical companies, who set out -- unsuccessfully -- to develop synthetic forms of THC that would deliver all the medical benefits without the &quot;high.&quot;&quot;&lt;/B&gt;

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/TimelineRxG&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Medical Marijuana Throughout History&lt;/A&gt;

&lt;I&gt;&lt;B&gt;&quot;&quot;... as a multipurpose plant, ganga is used medicinally, even by non-smokers. ....

There were no indications of organic brain damage or chromosome damage among smokers and no significant clinical psychiatric, psychological or medical) differences between smokers and controls.&quot;

&quot;No impairment of physiological, sensory and perceptual performance, tests of concept formation, abstracting ability, and cognitive style, and tests of memory&quot;

&quot;[Cannabis smoking] does not lead directly to mental or physical deterioration...

Those who have consumed marijuana for a period of years showed no mental or physical deterioration which may be attributed to the drug.&quot;&quot;&lt;/B&gt;
~ Jamaican Study 1974&lt;/I&gt;

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/646&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HASHISH FUDGE Soma and the Wootton Report&lt;/A&gt;

&lt;I&gt;&lt;B&gt;&quot;&quot;Having reviewed all the material available to us we find ourselves in agreement with the conclusion reached by the Indian Hemp Drugs Commission appointed by the Government of India (1893-94) and the New York Mayor&#039;s Committee (1944 - LaGuardia) that the long-term consumption of cannabis in moderate doses has no harmful effects&quot; &quot;the long-asserted dangers of cannabis are exaggerated and that the related law is socially damaging, if not unworkable&quot;&quot;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/I&gt;

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Library/studies/studies.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Major Studies of Drugs and Drug Policy&lt;/A&gt;

&lt;I&gt;LaGuardia Commission Report, 1944
&lt;B&gt;&quot;&quot;Cannabis smoking] does not lead directly to mental or physical deterioration... Those who have consumed marijuana for a period of years showed no mental or physical deterioration which may be attributed to the drug.&quot;&quot;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/I&gt;

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Library/studies/inhemp/ihmenu.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Indian Hemp Drugs Commission Report&lt;/A&gt;

&lt;I&gt;&lt;B&gt;&quot;&quot;The commission has come to the conclusion that the moderate use of hemp drugs is practically attended by no evil results at all. ... ...moderate use of hemp... appears to cause no appreciable physical injury of any kind,... no injurious effects on the mind... [and] no moral injury whatever.&quot;&quot;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/I&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there needs to be more drug worrier lobotomy&#8217;s.<br />
We gotta stop hiring illiterate bureaucrats,<br />
Or supporting media gossip and dribble.<br />
More research, there hasn&#8217;t been a plant researched more,<br />
The past research was re-evalutaions of past research,<br />
including the 1999 IOM, sitting 3 admins at the HHS.<br />
Different results is what these insane futhermuckers mean.</p>
<p><a HREF="http://tinyurl.com/4epw2n" rel="nofollow">Politics of Pot</a></p>
<p><i>Cannabis Shrinks Tumors: Government Knew in 74</i><br />
<b>&#8220;The DEA quickly shut down the Virginia study and all further cannabis/tumor research, according to Jack Herer, who reports on the events in his book, The Emperor Wears No Clothes.  In 1976, President Gerald Ford put an end to all public cannabis research and granted exclusive research rights to major pharmaceutical companies, who set out &#8212; unsuccessfully &#8212; to develop synthetic forms of THC that would deliver all the medical benefits without the &#8220;high.&#8221;"</b></p>
<p><a HREF="http://tinyurl.com/TimelineRxG" rel="nofollow">Medical Marijuana Throughout History</a></p>
<p><i><b>&#8220;&#8221;&#8230; as a multipurpose plant, ganga is used medicinally, even by non-smokers. &#8230;.</p>
<p>There were no indications of organic brain damage or chromosome damage among smokers and no significant clinical psychiatric, psychological or medical) differences between smokers and controls.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No impairment of physiological, sensory and perceptual performance, tests of concept formation, abstracting ability, and cognitive style, and tests of memory&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;[Cannabis smoking] does not lead directly to mental or physical deterioration&#8230;</p>
<p>Those who have consumed marijuana for a period of years showed no mental or physical deterioration which may be attributed to the drug.&#8221;"</b><br />
~ Jamaican Study 1974</i></p>
<p><a HREF="http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/646" rel="nofollow">HASHISH FUDGE Soma and the Wootton Report</a></p>
<p><i><b>&#8220;&#8221;Having reviewed all the material available to us we find ourselves in agreement with the conclusion reached by the Indian Hemp Drugs Commission appointed by the Government of India (1893-94) and the New York Mayor&#8217;s Committee (1944 &#8211; LaGuardia) that the long-term consumption of cannabis in moderate doses has no harmful effects&#8221; &#8220;the long-asserted dangers of cannabis are exaggerated and that the related law is socially damaging, if not unworkable&#8221;"</b></i></p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Library/studies/studies.htm" rel="nofollow">Major Studies of Drugs and Drug Policy</a></p>
<p><i>LaGuardia Commission Report, 1944<br />
<b>&#8220;&#8221;Cannabis smoking] does not lead directly to mental or physical deterioration&#8230; Those who have consumed marijuana for a period of years showed no mental or physical deterioration which may be attributed to the drug.&#8221;"</b></i></p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Library/studies/inhemp/ihmenu.htm" rel="nofollow">Indian Hemp Drugs Commission Report</a></p>
<p><i><b>&#8220;&#8221;The commission has come to the conclusion that the moderate use of hemp drugs is practically attended by no evil results at all. &#8230; &#8230;moderate use of hemp&#8230; appears to cause no appreciable physical injury of any kind,&#8230; no injurious effects on the mind&#8230; [and] no moral injury whatever.&#8221;"</b></i></p>
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		<title>By: skootercat</title>
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		<dc:creator>skootercat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re-legalization makes the medical issue somewhat moot does it not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re-legalization makes the medical issue somewhat moot does it not?</p>
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		<title>By: allan420</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/11/yes-there-needs-to-be-more-research-and-no-there-doesnt/comment-page-1/#comment-4303</link>
		<dc:creator>allan420</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just a slight back-up to brian&#039;s comment...

Re-legalization is not just for &quot;recreational&quot; users. Re-legalization offers the most protection to the most people - as in &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; of us.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just a slight back-up to brian&#8217;s comment&#8230;</p>
<p>Re-legalization is not just for &#8220;recreational&#8221; users. Re-legalization offers the most protection to the most people &#8211; as in <i>all</i> of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/11/yes-there-needs-to-be-more-research-and-no-there-doesnt/comment-page-1/#comment-4301</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I&#039;d use Quickfix 4.0 if I wanted to pass a whiz quiz, not any magic elixir scam. I have no clue what rootin&#039; tootin&#039; raspberry is but synthetic urine and substitution is the way to go if you do decide it&#039;s ok to work for assholes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I&#8217;d use Quickfix 4.0 if I wanted to pass a whiz quiz, not any magic elixir scam. I have no clue what rootin&#8217; tootin&#8217; raspberry is but synthetic urine and substitution is the way to go if you do decide it&#8217;s ok to work for assholes.</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/11/yes-there-needs-to-be-more-research-and-no-there-doesnt/comment-page-1/#comment-4300</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If its a choice between medical and recreational legalization I vote to forego recreational legalization as I think relieving the suffering of the sick much more important, hands down. Yes, everyone dies, but not everyone dies equally.

I think AB390 will pass next year now that the CMA has made its proclamation, and you&#039;ll be shocked to learn that you still likely won&#039;t have any protection from being fired if you agree to provide your tinkle for a test and test positive. I solved that problem by refusing to work for anyone that engages in that behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If its a choice between medical and recreational legalization I vote to forego recreational legalization as I think relieving the suffering of the sick much more important, hands down. Yes, everyone dies, but not everyone dies equally.</p>
<p>I think AB390 will pass next year now that the CMA has made its proclamation, and you&#8217;ll be shocked to learn that you still likely won&#8217;t have any protection from being fired if you agree to provide your tinkle for a test and test positive. I solved that problem by refusing to work for anyone that engages in that behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: brian bennett</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/11/yes-there-needs-to-be-more-research-and-no-there-doesnt/comment-page-1/#comment-4299</link>
		<dc:creator>brian bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@duncan

no offense, and i hate to break it to you, but everybody dies.  sorry, my friend but med pot in california has done nothing to stop a new record number of arrests for marijuana possession every year.  and it still won&#039;t help you keep your job i you get tagged via piss test.

keep chugging the rootin&#039; tootin&#039; raspberry if it amuses you, but here we are 13 years later, and you will still lose your job if you get tagged on a piss test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@duncan</p>
<p>no offense, and i hate to break it to you, but everybody dies.  sorry, my friend but med pot in california has done nothing to stop a new record number of arrests for marijuana possession every year.  and it still won&#8217;t help you keep your job i you get tagged via piss test.</p>
<p>keep chugging the rootin&#8217; tootin&#8217; raspberry if it amuses you, but here we are 13 years later, and you will still lose your job if you get tagged on a piss test.</p>
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		<title>By: R.O.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/11/yes-there-needs-to-be-more-research-and-no-there-doesnt/comment-page-1/#comment-4298</link>
		<dc:creator>R.O.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here here Duncan, I watched my father and grandmother go through the very same thing with cancer. Medical cannabis helps sick,period! No testing or studies needs. Will it kill cancer or help cure other deseases, maybe, let make it so we can test more and find out! Does cannabis kill people? NO! its safer than alcohol. We have a right to our choice of relaxtion or intocicant. ITS MY BODY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here here Duncan, I watched my father and grandmother go through the very same thing with cancer. Medical cannabis helps sick,period! No testing or studies needs. Will it kill cancer or help cure other deseases, maybe, let make it so we can test more and find out! Does cannabis kill people? NO! its safer than alcohol. We have a right to our choice of relaxtion or intocicant. ITS MY BODY!</p>
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		<title>By: jayrollinhippy</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/11/yes-there-needs-to-be-more-research-and-no-there-doesnt/comment-page-1/#comment-4294</link>
		<dc:creator>jayrollinhippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are volumes of reshearch done on the medicinal propetys of cannabis done prior to the passage of the 1936 marijuana tax stamp act. It was this very reshearch that caused the late Dr. Todd Mikiyura An advid govt prohb shill to change his mind and become one of the leading proponets in the medical marijuana movement in California. I dont know if it still exist or not but Dr. Todds web site listed over 180 conditions that could benifit from cannabis</description>
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