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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube com/watch?v=68dM1H

..someone just had this on MPP.Blog.

..I&#039;m sure he won&#039;t mind our cross-referencing.

..cannabis fights cancer!

..we&#039;re all spreading the good word.</description>
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<p>..someone just had this on MPP.Blog.</p>
<p>..I&#8217;m sure he won&#8217;t mind our cross-referencing.</p>
<p>..cannabis fights cancer!</p>
<p>..we&#8217;re all spreading the good word.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo-da-ley-de-hoo!

God is gonna hit &#039;em with a &#039;hot rock&#039; from outer space.

LOFAO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo-da-ley-de-hoo!</p>
<p>God is gonna hit &#8216;em with a &#8216;hot rock&#8217; from outer space.</p>
<p>LOFAO!</p>
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		<title>By: ezrydn</title>
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		<dc:creator>ezrydn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel,

It&#039;s suggested that, since I&#039;ve waited a long time, I&#039;ll wait for the second term.  Well, I&#039;ve waited long enough and if I don&#039;t see the &quot;change,&quot; I&#039;ll be on whoever&#039;s side that&#039;s running against him.  Then, we&#039;ll see if he&#039;s got a chuckle left.  CODIFY IT....NOW!  Otherwise, it&#039;s meaningless when the next administration takes office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s suggested that, since I&#8217;ve waited a long time, I&#8217;ll wait for the second term.  Well, I&#8217;ve waited long enough and if I don&#8217;t see the &#8220;change,&#8221; I&#8217;ll be on whoever&#8217;s side that&#8217;s running against him.  Then, we&#8217;ll see if he&#8217;s got a chuckle left.  CODIFY IT&#8230;.NOW!  Otherwise, it&#8217;s meaningless when the next administration takes office.</p>
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		<title>By: Buc</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/11/department-of-pre-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-4168</link>
		<dc:creator>Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The folks waiting for Obama to do something in his second term are going to be as excited as the folks that were waiting for Bush to become a fiscal conservative in his second term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The folks waiting for Obama to do something in his second term are going to be as excited as the folks that were waiting for Bush to become a fiscal conservative in his second term.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel E. Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel E. Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;Minority Report&quot; comparison is apt.  But only in Hollywood can an end to a bad government policy come about so quickly.  If Obama allows Holder to implement such a policy after the trials, it will be criminal and just another slap in the face to drug policy reformers.

The flaw in the belief that Obama is waiting until his second term to effect real drug policy reform is the assumption he&#039;ll have a second term.  At this stage of his game, that is anything but a far-gone conclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Minority Report&#8221; comparison is apt.  But only in Hollywood can an end to a bad government policy come about so quickly.  If Obama allows Holder to implement such a policy after the trials, it will be criminal and just another slap in the face to drug policy reformers.</p>
<p>The flaw in the belief that Obama is waiting until his second term to effect real drug policy reform is the assumption he&#8217;ll have a second term.  At this stage of his game, that is anything but a far-gone conclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: DdC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DdC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you spell profiling?

This entire political baboonery doesn&#039;t only attempt pre crime prevention. They also treat anyone on disability as criminals, then if they prove they&#039;re not, ok, but only after inspections and threats. Same with probation for pot using unConstitutional pisstastes. Slumlords do exist, but this invasion of privacy has nothing to do with slumlords. Like any thug they should be busted. But we don&#039;t close the banks because of robberies, why treat the poor with such indignation? California apartment owners think they can stop patients from using Ganja under threats of eviction, in spite of prop 215. Those who rent out apartments give up their ownership when they cash the rent check. Same as renting a car. Heart doesn&#039;t pull you over to see if you&#039;re smoking, they charge you big bucks if they smell it. Security deposits are for owners to pay for clean up. Not treating everyone as criminals. So this is just another fascist attempt at curtailing Americans rights. Like the pussy German population sitting on their keesters while Hitler gained power. The corporate government can only do what we let them. The fact they do so much is only testimony to the lack of involvement by us we the peoples. Let have a law against obedient cowards.

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/sacked-adviser-urges-cannabis-probe&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sacked Adviser Urges Cannabis Probe&lt;/A&gt;
Sacked government drugs adviser Prof David Nutt has called for a Royal Commission to investigate whether cannabis should be decriminalised.

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/war-war-drugs&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The War on the War on Drugs&lt;/A&gt;
If Ex-Governor Gary Johnson was president, the first thing he would do about drug policy is &quot;legalize marijuana&quot;.

Now this is a true Republican, not a Neoconjob fascist.

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gV1T51I1pA&amp;feature=player_embedded&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bill O&#039;Reilly &amp; Cheech and Chong on Legalization of Marijuana&lt;/A&gt;

This was pretty good, totally subverting O&#039;Really. Then Tommy sticks his foot in his mouth asking for Ganja to be a schedule#2. WTF! Nixon lied dude, no scheduling is appropriate, not letting big Pharma make big bucks while Ganja is still stigmatized. Damn stoners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you spell profiling?</p>
<p>This entire political baboonery doesn&#8217;t only attempt pre crime prevention. They also treat anyone on disability as criminals, then if they prove they&#8217;re not, ok, but only after inspections and threats. Same with probation for pot using unConstitutional pisstastes. Slumlords do exist, but this invasion of privacy has nothing to do with slumlords. Like any thug they should be busted. But we don&#8217;t close the banks because of robberies, why treat the poor with such indignation? California apartment owners think they can stop patients from using Ganja under threats of eviction, in spite of prop 215. Those who rent out apartments give up their ownership when they cash the rent check. Same as renting a car. Heart doesn&#8217;t pull you over to see if you&#8217;re smoking, they charge you big bucks if they smell it. Security deposits are for owners to pay for clean up. Not treating everyone as criminals. So this is just another fascist attempt at curtailing Americans rights. Like the pussy German population sitting on their keesters while Hitler gained power. The corporate government can only do what we let them. The fact they do so much is only testimony to the lack of involvement by us we the peoples. Let have a law against obedient cowards.</p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/sacked-adviser-urges-cannabis-probe" rel="nofollow">Sacked Adviser Urges Cannabis Probe</a><br />
Sacked government drugs adviser Prof David Nutt has called for a Royal Commission to investigate whether cannabis should be decriminalised.</p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/war-war-drugs" rel="nofollow">The War on the War on Drugs</a><br />
If Ex-Governor Gary Johnson was president, the first thing he would do about drug policy is &#8220;legalize marijuana&#8221;.</p>
<p>Now this is a true Republican, not a Neoconjob fascist.</p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gV1T51I1pA&amp;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">Bill O&#8217;Reilly &amp; Cheech and Chong on Legalization of Marijuana</a></p>
<p>This was pretty good, totally subverting O&#8217;Really. Then Tommy sticks his foot in his mouth asking for Ganja to be a schedule#2. WTF! Nixon lied dude, no scheduling is appropriate, not letting big Pharma make big bucks while Ganja is still stigmatized. Damn stoners.</p>
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		<title>By: Buc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how 1984 gets closer to becoming a reality every day.

Mr. Orwell was just off by a few decades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how 1984 gets closer to becoming a reality every day.</p>
<p>Mr. Orwell was just off by a few decades.</p>
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		<title>By: Hope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another blood sucking louse on the itchy, collective scalp of the citizens of the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another blood sucking louse on the itchy, collective scalp of the citizens of the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: Hope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think maybe our police need to focus on past crime and present crime instead of &quot;predictive&quot; crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think maybe our police need to focus on past crime and present crime instead of &#8220;predictive&#8221; crime.</p>
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		<title>By: Dragan Vojnovic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dragan Vojnovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woah, our friends at the DOJ seem to have fallen in love with Minority Report (with Tom Cruise). A couple quick morning thoughts about pre-crime.

First off, &quot;predicting&quot; who is more likely to violate the law is completely ridiculous. With demographical reports, one can observe a general trend of sociological patterns, but a these trends can&#039;t be generalized, and usually change over time.

Then, I&#039;m wondering what the authorities are planning to concretely do with this &quot;pre-crime&quot; program. Are we going to arrest people for being part of social categories where crime is more prevalent? If a pre-crime department was put in place, wouldn&#039;t factors like race, religion, age, and social class be used to target &quot;potential criminals?&quot; If so, then how would that be seen as legitimate? If not, which factors would be used instead, and how much more neutral would they be?

My attention also comes to the very idea that we could be spending resources on a pre-crime program. With the War on Drugs, we&#039;re spending resources on incarcerating those who commit victimless crimes, and we&#039;re shown its a waste of time. Now the DOJ wants to spend resources on incarcerating those who haven&#039;t even committed a crime at all?

There are other points I could be making about this absurd idea, but I&#039;m going to leave that to more articulate individuals who probably would do a better job. The last thing I have to say is that even in Spielberg&#039;s &quot;Minority Report,&quot; where they use advanced technology and paranormal visions to track down pre-criminals, the program does not work, and I have reasons to believe that we won&#039;t be that successful at it either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woah, our friends at the DOJ seem to have fallen in love with Minority Report (with Tom Cruise). A couple quick morning thoughts about pre-crime.</p>
<p>First off, &#8220;predicting&#8221; who is more likely to violate the law is completely ridiculous. With demographical reports, one can observe a general trend of sociological patterns, but a these trends can&#8217;t be generalized, and usually change over time.</p>
<p>Then, I&#8217;m wondering what the authorities are planning to concretely do with this &#8220;pre-crime&#8221; program. Are we going to arrest people for being part of social categories where crime is more prevalent? If a pre-crime department was put in place, wouldn&#8217;t factors like race, religion, age, and social class be used to target &#8220;potential criminals?&#8221; If so, then how would that be seen as legitimate? If not, which factors would be used instead, and how much more neutral would they be?</p>
<p>My attention also comes to the very idea that we could be spending resources on a pre-crime program. With the War on Drugs, we&#8217;re spending resources on incarcerating those who commit victimless crimes, and we&#8217;re shown its a waste of time. Now the DOJ wants to spend resources on incarcerating those who haven&#8217;t even committed a crime at all?</p>
<p>There are other points I could be making about this absurd idea, but I&#8217;m going to leave that to more articulate individuals who probably would do a better job. The last thing I have to say is that even in Spielberg&#8217;s &#8220;Minority Report,&#8221; where they use advanced technology and paranormal visions to track down pre-criminals, the program does not work, and I have reasons to believe that we won&#8217;t be that successful at it either.</p>
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