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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/09/drug-czar-follies-and-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-1448</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 03:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;looking at windmills&quot;?  Not familiar with that notion.

But perhaps you meant &quot;tilting at windmills...&quot;  Ah, the quixotic fantasies of Don Quixote.  Charging down the sails of windmills as if they were giants to fight in an imaginary righteous war.

&quot;Tilting at windmills&quot; refers to fighting imaginary foes (certainly not the case for us!) or, sometimes, fighting unwinnable or futile battles (and if I believed our fight was unwinnable, I wouldn&#039;t be writing this blog).  Even if we merely affect one person (and our successes are far beyond that, we wouldn&#039;t be tilting at windmills.

Sure, the pace of progress in actual policy change is frustratingly slow, but that doesn&#039;t mean there&#039;s no room for optimism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;looking at windmills&#8221;?  Not familiar with that notion.</p>
<p>But perhaps you meant &#8220;tilting at windmills&#8230;&#8221;  Ah, the quixotic fantasies of Don Quixote.  Charging down the sails of windmills as if they were giants to fight in an imaginary righteous war.</p>
<p>&#8220;Tilting at windmills&#8221; refers to fighting imaginary foes (certainly not the case for us!) or, sometimes, fighting unwinnable or futile battles (and if I believed our fight was unwinnable, I wouldn&#8217;t be writing this blog).  Even if we merely affect one person (and our successes are far beyond that, we wouldn&#8217;t be tilting at windmills.</p>
<p>Sure, the pace of progress in actual policy change is frustratingly slow, but that doesn&#8217;t mean there&#8217;s no room for optimism.</p>
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		<title>By: Klay</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/09/drug-czar-follies-and-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-1447</link>
		<dc:creator>Klay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 02:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Until I see an actual shift in policy - we are looking at windmills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until I see an actual shift in policy &#8211; we are looking at windmills.</p>
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		<title>By: Sukoi</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/09/drug-czar-follies-and-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-1445</link>
		<dc:creator>Sukoi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a really good point Allan - we ruled the Kerry forum and we were pretty much ignored for our efforts. But we persevered and we are changing minds at an incredible rate and, as I&#039;ve said before, that&#039;s in no small part to the incredible efforts of our gracious host Pete. 

Thanks Pete, your couch is awfully comfortable and crammed to capacity with good company! Think that you can work in an ottoman and a few chairs to make room for more? They will most certainly be needed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a really good point Allan &#8211; we ruled the Kerry forum and we were pretty much ignored for our efforts. But we persevered and we are changing minds at an incredible rate and, as I&#8217;ve said before, that&#8217;s in no small part to the incredible efforts of our gracious host Pete. </p>
<p>Thanks Pete, your couch is awfully comfortable and crammed to capacity with good company! Think that you can work in an ottoman and a few chairs to make room for more? They will most certainly be needed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: allan420</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/09/drug-czar-follies-and-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-1444</link>
		<dc:creator>allan420</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and &lt;i&gt;please...&lt;/i&gt; let us not forget what we did to John Kerry&#039;s website! OMG! It was like... &lt;i&gt;sooo awesome!&lt;/i&gt;

Teamwork y&#039;all, not stepping on toes, just doing whatever it is we all do, armed with the same info but in tune with our own preferences, we&#039;ve done well. Real well. And we know &lt;i&gt;they&lt;/i&gt; read this too. So major razberries to the Prohibs! PBBBBTTT!

And another thing... we do what we do right out here in front of god and anybody who wants to see. Everywhere we are we have open forums, blogs w/ comments... and can they say the same? No. Their wwwebsites have at best moderated commenting. Hell ONDCP&#039;s used to just swallow comments never to be seen again (Smaug&#039;s big appetite). And - just because I like the sound of the word, here&#039;s another to us:

&lt;i&gt;Huzzah!&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and <i>please&#8230;</i> let us not forget what we did to John Kerry&#8217;s website! OMG! It was like&#8230; <i>sooo awesome!</i></p>
<p>Teamwork y&#8217;all, not stepping on toes, just doing whatever it is we all do, armed with the same info but in tune with our own preferences, we&#8217;ve done well. Real well. And we know <i>they</i> read this too. So major razberries to the Prohibs! PBBBBTTT!</p>
<p>And another thing&#8230; we do what we do right out here in front of god and anybody who wants to see. Everywhere we are we have open forums, blogs w/ comments&#8230; and can they say the same? No. Their wwwebsites have at best moderated commenting. Hell ONDCP&#8217;s used to just swallow comments never to be seen again (Smaug&#8217;s big appetite). And &#8211; just because I like the sound of the word, here&#8217;s another to us:</p>
<p><i>Huzzah!</i></p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/09/drug-czar-follies-and-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-1443</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kaptinemo, thanks for the link. I&#039;ve read it several times before already :D I can see from your posts at pcf that you call them out on these points whenever possible, very nice job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kaptinemo, thanks for the link. I&#8217;ve read it several times before already <img src='http://www.drugwarrant.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  I can see from your posts at pcf that you call them out on these points whenever possible, very nice job.</p>
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		<title>By: Sukoi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sukoi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw shucks - kicks pebble, hands in pockets - thanks Kapt and you too Allan; you guys just rock! I know that I don&#039;t post often but I read here several times daily and now that Pete has this new site, it&#039;s no longer blocked at my work. 

With regard to PC, theres almost always a new thread about cannabis re-legalization to jump in on and who could forget &lt;a href=&quot;//www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=67933&amp;highlight=”&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Malcolms thread&lt;/a&gt; spanning two years and 173 pages?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw shucks &#8211; kicks pebble, hands in pockets &#8211; thanks Kapt and you too Allan; you guys just rock! I know that I don&#8217;t post often but I read here several times daily and now that Pete has this new site, it&#8217;s no longer blocked at my work. </p>
<p>With regard to PC, theres almost always a new thread about cannabis re-legalization to jump in on and who could forget <a href="//www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=67933&amp;highlight=”" rel="nofollow">Malcolms thread</a> spanning two years and 173 pages?</p>
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		<title>By: claygooding</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/09/drug-czar-follies-and-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-1441</link>
		<dc:creator>claygooding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When anyone from the ONDCP accuses us of false studies and science,they are only applying their rule book to us. They are required to refuse and refute any scientific or clinical study that shows medical applications for any schedule I drug.
Still waiting for an interviewer to ask the ONDCP speaker;
&quot;Since it is required by congressional mandate that you deny any medical application of marijuana,in any form,how do you allow MARINOL,which is the very psychoactive part of the drug, and you claim is the reason marijuana is so dangerous?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When anyone from the ONDCP accuses us of false studies and science,they are only applying their rule book to us. They are required to refuse and refute any scientific or clinical study that shows medical applications for any schedule I drug.<br />
Still waiting for an interviewer to ask the ONDCP speaker;<br />
&#8220;Since it is required by congressional mandate that you deny any medical application of marijuana,in any form,how do you allow MARINOL,which is the very psychoactive part of the drug, and you claim is the reason marijuana is so dangerous?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kaptinemo</title>
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		<dc:creator>kaptinemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Back at ya Sukoi. We sailed the mighty (web) seas and swashed a few buckles. The DWR crew racked up some miles and a few notches on the post. Hats off to all. Huzzah!&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Indeed, it was Sukoi who alerted me to the existence of the PC Website and what was happening there. I&#039;d been looking to sharpen my rhetorical knives on some prohib &#039;whetstones&#039;, and he (and of course, inadvertently, dear Linda) gave me the perfect opportunity. It truly was my pleasure, literally. But it wouldn&#039;t have happened without his efforts. And it&#039;s good to see you on here, Sukoi, we missed you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Back at ya Sukoi. We sailed the mighty (web) seas and swashed a few buckles. The DWR crew racked up some miles and a few notches on the post. Hats off to all. Huzzah!&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Indeed, it was Sukoi who alerted me to the existence of the PC Website and what was happening there. I&#8217;d been looking to sharpen my rhetorical knives on some prohib &#8216;whetstones&#8217;, and he (and of course, inadvertently, dear Linda) gave me the perfect opportunity. It truly was my pleasure, literally. But it wouldn&#8217;t have happened without his efforts. And it&#8217;s good to see you on here, Sukoi, we missed you.</p>
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		<title>By: sixtyfps</title>
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		<dc:creator>sixtyfps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sent this off to George&#039;s Q&amp;A question-gathering software:

&quot;Given the windfall of tax savings and earnings economists have indicated will be likely to follow the abolishment of prohibition—along with people&#039;s ability to choose marijuana, a common weed that DEA Administrative Judge Francis Young called &quot;one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man&quot;—why disregard the arguably profound synergy between ending the War on Drugs and the future of healthcare?  Further, why have you reneged on your promise to sow science-based policy in an arena that&#039;s so important to you (and us, your *snicker* online audience)?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sent this off to George&#8217;s Q&amp;A question-gathering software:</p>
<p>&#8220;Given the windfall of tax savings and earnings economists have indicated will be likely to follow the abolishment of prohibition—along with people&#8217;s ability to choose marijuana, a common weed that DEA Administrative Judge Francis Young called &#8220;one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man&#8221;—why disregard the arguably profound synergy between ending the War on Drugs and the future of healthcare?  Further, why have you reneged on your promise to sow science-based policy in an arena that&#8217;s so important to you (and us, your *snicker* online audience)?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: allan420</title>
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		<dc:creator>allan420</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 02:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>back at ya Sukoi. We sailed the mighty (web) seas and swashed a few buckles. The DWR crew racked up some miles and a few notches on the post. Hats off to all. Huzzah!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>back at ya Sukoi. We sailed the mighty (web) seas and swashed a few buckles. The DWR crew racked up some miles and a few notches on the post. Hats off to all. Huzzah!</p>
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