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		<title>By: BruceM</title>
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		<dc:creator>BruceM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may very well have lots of health benefits.  It may better your eyesight, increase your IQ, help your breathing, increase the size of your penis, allow greater orgasms, increase fertility, relieve constipation, regrow lost hair, and thousands of other things... but inhaling smoke also can lead to cancer.  I&#039;m the most pro-drug person you&#039;ll ever meet, I believe children should be taught how to properly inject themselves with heroin in first grade, and EVERYTHING should be legal and readily available.  But inhaling smoke increases the risk of cancer.  It does.  It&#039;s not propaganda... the last thing I want to do is say anything negative about drugs.  But inhaling smoke of ANY KIND, despite any benefits it may have, also contains carcinogens and increases the risk of cancer.  You&#039;re the first person I&#039;ve ever met in my entire life to claim there is zero cancer risk with inhaling smoke.  I wish it were true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may very well have lots of health benefits.  It may better your eyesight, increase your IQ, help your breathing, increase the size of your penis, allow greater orgasms, increase fertility, relieve constipation, regrow lost hair, and thousands of other things&#8230; but inhaling smoke also can lead to cancer.  I&#8217;m the most pro-drug person you&#8217;ll ever meet, I believe children should be taught how to properly inject themselves with heroin in first grade, and EVERYTHING should be legal and readily available.  But inhaling smoke increases the risk of cancer.  It does.  It&#8217;s not propaganda&#8230; the last thing I want to do is say anything negative about drugs.  But inhaling smoke of ANY KIND, despite any benefits it may have, also contains carcinogens and increases the risk of cancer.  You&#8217;re the first person I&#8217;ve ever met in my entire life to claim there is zero cancer risk with inhaling smoke.  I wish it were true.</p>
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		<title>By: DdC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DdC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread24979.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cannabis Chemicals May Help Fight Prostate Cancer&lt;/A&gt; &lt;I&gt;By Ben Hirschler
CN Source: Reuters August 18, 2009 London&lt;/I&gt; 
Chemicals in cannabis have been found to stop prostate cancer cells from growing in the laboratory, suggesting that cannabis-based medicines could one day help fight the disease, scientists said Wednesday. After working initially with human cancer cell lines, Ines Diaz-Laviada and colleagues from the University of Alcala in Madrid also tested one compound on mice and discovered it produced a significant reduction in tumor growth. 

&lt;I&gt;DdC: I’m not saying it’s dangerous, but it’s ignorant to think breathing smoke is good for you. The bottom line is that you should have the right to make that decision for yourself.&lt;/I&gt;

Not when you lie. Your ignorance is the only thing stating facts that are only assumptions do to ignorance of Ganja. Yes Ganja smoke is good for you. I&#039;ve shown you the studies and I&#039;ve shown you the logic and I&#039;ve shown you the Nixon lies and you still cling to the &quot;myth&#039;s&quot; The same as the regular people when Galileo told them the earth was not flat. Thats ridiculous just look at it they said, don&#039;t be ignorant and just the same, the government censored him so for 100 years fools stayed fools believing in the flat earth. Cograts. Your assumptions only work for the prohibitionists. Lets see, men say they can fly eh? Or go to the moon. Not a wonder how easily Boosh duped the public into the lies of Iraq.

&lt;I&gt;Everyone knows of someone who smoked a carton of cigarettes every day and lived to be 101.&lt;/I&gt;

I don&#039;t. I have done hospice work for 20 years and that just doesn&#039;t make sense. We have all seen the victims of chemical cigarettes, not tobacco. I&#039;ve never heard of anyone smoking a carton a day. I have heard of others living to 101. They probably smoked Ganja.

&lt;I&gt;That doesn’t mean cigarettes are good for you.&lt;/I&gt;

Bait and switch again? I told you cigarettes kill hundreds of thousands of people a year. Tobacco leaves are being studied for Parkinson treatment, releasing dopamine. It calms nerves better than white powders, but again I wouldn&#039;t advise &quot;cigarettes&quot; without the expectorant of Ganja. Most processed food is worse than Ganja. 

&lt;I&gt;We can agree that THC is perfectly safe and has never killed anyone. But when its delivery system is burning smoke, there is a cancer risk. That anyone would disagree with that is news to me.&lt;/I&gt;

That is not a surprise with 75 years of censorship. Your education does you more harm than illiterates. Your in a hole where they stand on the surface. You were taught with censored school books and graduate with honors, sealing your ignorance. You have a diploma stating smoke is harmful and thats that. So your body&#039;s THC receptors and transmitters throughout the skin signal cells to turn on or off to cancer. Ganja prevents the signal and as a balancer in many aspects. Keeps the body the way it was intended. They&#039;re just starting to map it out and that is the questions not being ask. Why hasn&#039;t this been done before? Prohibition and the Gossip that feeds it..

&lt;I&gt;&lt;B&gt;&quot;...the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races.&quot;&lt;/B&gt;
- Harry J. Anslinger - America&#039;s 1st Drug Czar (FDR - JFK)&lt;/I&gt;

That can not lead to medical conditions. Though 3000 or so were lynched for insolence, probably from Ganja smoke.

&lt;I&gt;Note that the cancer risk is NOT why the government claims pot should be illegal. I’ve never seen an anti-pot propaganda ad that even mentions cancer. Also, note that I’m not saying THC is carcinogenic. It’s not.&lt;/I&gt;

You haven&#039;t seen a lot of things and that explains your assumptions. Klintoon raved on and on about &quot;legalizing&quot; cancer sticks. that joints were coffin nails. No actual body counts, just average, reasonable, gullible lemmings going along with what sounds right to them. I don&#039;t think &quot;believers&quot;, either religious or reefer madhatters can see the truth because they would have to admit all the harm their gossip has done. So they keep torturing Americans for the good intentions. Pitiful. Maybe you should tell these people...

Again this just in... Cannabis Chemicals May Help Fight Prostate Cancer

&lt;I&gt;Also, none of your cites support your position that marijuana smoke contains no carcinogens and has never caused a single case of cancer in 5000 years of use.&lt;/I&gt;

Bring the name or stop the horshit run around. You want proof that Ganja doesn&#039;t cause cancer by showing you Ganja smokers without cancer? Go to India or China, no cancer. Early Americans, no cancer. Europeans, no cancer. South America, Canada, give it up dude. No victims no crime. Like I figured, ya got nothing and my links are pretty clear in what they say. Your lack of any evidence tells the story. You are the accuser and you have no proof, don&#039;t lay it on me to disprove your hobgoblins. Hobgoblins aren&#039;t real to prove would be impossible. Bring a victim or shut the fuck up.

&lt;I&gt;Whether it’s a good expectorant is irrelevant to that assertion.&lt;/I&gt;

No, its science as the link stated. The expectorant is what rids the body of harmful carcinogens, irrelevant is your denial. Your assertions are from paid liars. Diverting the issue with red herrings only delays the truth. That is your agenda, to keep selling lies you can&#039;t have truth anywhere near. Your silly assumptions only work on prohibitionists lapdogs.

&lt;I&gt;If you’re going to use bla bla bla nothing...
 If I say the color red has the longest wavelength of the visible spectrum, quotes about all the other colors are completely irrelevant.&lt;/I&gt;

You are irrelivant and very boring with status quo gibberish.  So, this conversations over... Unless you find me something besides little girl rumors. Although I suspect that is your only intent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread24979.shtml" rel="nofollow">Cannabis Chemicals May Help Fight Prostate Cancer</a> <i>By Ben Hirschler<br />
CN Source: Reuters August 18, 2009 London</i><br />
Chemicals in cannabis have been found to stop prostate cancer cells from growing in the laboratory, suggesting that cannabis-based medicines could one day help fight the disease, scientists said Wednesday. After working initially with human cancer cell lines, Ines Diaz-Laviada and colleagues from the University of Alcala in Madrid also tested one compound on mice and discovered it produced a significant reduction in tumor growth. </p>
<p><i>DdC: I’m not saying it’s dangerous, but it’s ignorant to think breathing smoke is good for you. The bottom line is that you should have the right to make that decision for yourself.</i></p>
<p>Not when you lie. Your ignorance is the only thing stating facts that are only assumptions do to ignorance of Ganja. Yes Ganja smoke is good for you. I&#8217;ve shown you the studies and I&#8217;ve shown you the logic and I&#8217;ve shown you the Nixon lies and you still cling to the &#8220;myth&#8217;s&#8221; The same as the regular people when Galileo told them the earth was not flat. Thats ridiculous just look at it they said, don&#8217;t be ignorant and just the same, the government censored him so for 100 years fools stayed fools believing in the flat earth. Cograts. Your assumptions only work for the prohibitionists. Lets see, men say they can fly eh? Or go to the moon. Not a wonder how easily Boosh duped the public into the lies of Iraq.</p>
<p><i>Everyone knows of someone who smoked a carton of cigarettes every day and lived to be 101.</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t. I have done hospice work for 20 years and that just doesn&#8217;t make sense. We have all seen the victims of chemical cigarettes, not tobacco. I&#8217;ve never heard of anyone smoking a carton a day. I have heard of others living to 101. They probably smoked Ganja.</p>
<p><i>That doesn’t mean cigarettes are good for you.</i></p>
<p>Bait and switch again? I told you cigarettes kill hundreds of thousands of people a year. Tobacco leaves are being studied for Parkinson treatment, releasing dopamine. It calms nerves better than white powders, but again I wouldn&#8217;t advise &#8220;cigarettes&#8221; without the expectorant of Ganja. Most processed food is worse than Ganja. </p>
<p><i>We can agree that THC is perfectly safe and has never killed anyone. But when its delivery system is burning smoke, there is a cancer risk. That anyone would disagree with that is news to me.</i></p>
<p>That is not a surprise with 75 years of censorship. Your education does you more harm than illiterates. Your in a hole where they stand on the surface. You were taught with censored school books and graduate with honors, sealing your ignorance. You have a diploma stating smoke is harmful and thats that. So your body&#8217;s THC receptors and transmitters throughout the skin signal cells to turn on or off to cancer. Ganja prevents the signal and as a balancer in many aspects. Keeps the body the way it was intended. They&#8217;re just starting to map it out and that is the questions not being ask. Why hasn&#8217;t this been done before? Prohibition and the Gossip that feeds it..</p>
<p><i><b>&#8220;&#8230;the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races.&#8221;</b><br />
- Harry J. Anslinger &#8211; America&#8217;s 1st Drug Czar (FDR &#8211; JFK)</i></p>
<p>That can not lead to medical conditions. Though 3000 or so were lynched for insolence, probably from Ganja smoke.</p>
<p><i>Note that the cancer risk is NOT why the government claims pot should be illegal. I’ve never seen an anti-pot propaganda ad that even mentions cancer. Also, note that I’m not saying THC is carcinogenic. It’s not.</i></p>
<p>You haven&#8217;t seen a lot of things and that explains your assumptions. Klintoon raved on and on about &#8220;legalizing&#8221; cancer sticks. that joints were coffin nails. No actual body counts, just average, reasonable, gullible lemmings going along with what sounds right to them. I don&#8217;t think &#8220;believers&#8221;, either religious or reefer madhatters can see the truth because they would have to admit all the harm their gossip has done. So they keep torturing Americans for the good intentions. Pitiful. Maybe you should tell these people&#8230;</p>
<p>Again this just in&#8230; Cannabis Chemicals May Help Fight Prostate Cancer</p>
<p><i>Also, none of your cites support your position that marijuana smoke contains no carcinogens and has never caused a single case of cancer in 5000 years of use.</i></p>
<p>Bring the name or stop the horshit run around. You want proof that Ganja doesn&#8217;t cause cancer by showing you Ganja smokers without cancer? Go to India or China, no cancer. Early Americans, no cancer. Europeans, no cancer. South America, Canada, give it up dude. No victims no crime. Like I figured, ya got nothing and my links are pretty clear in what they say. Your lack of any evidence tells the story. You are the accuser and you have no proof, don&#8217;t lay it on me to disprove your hobgoblins. Hobgoblins aren&#8217;t real to prove would be impossible. Bring a victim or shut the fuck up.</p>
<p><i>Whether it’s a good expectorant is irrelevant to that assertion.</i></p>
<p>No, its science as the link stated. The expectorant is what rids the body of harmful carcinogens, irrelevant is your denial. Your assertions are from paid liars. Diverting the issue with red herrings only delays the truth. That is your agenda, to keep selling lies you can&#8217;t have truth anywhere near. Your silly assumptions only work on prohibitionists lapdogs.</p>
<p><i>If you’re going to use bla bla bla nothing&#8230;<br />
 If I say the color red has the longest wavelength of the visible spectrum, quotes about all the other colors are completely irrelevant.</i></p>
<p>You are irrelivant and very boring with status quo gibberish.  So, this conversations over&#8230; Unless you find me something besides little girl rumors. Although I suspect that is your only intent.</p>
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		<title>By: BruceM</title>
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		<dc:creator>BruceM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DdC: I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s dangerous, but it&#039;s ignorant to think breathing smoke is good for you.  The bottom line is that you should have the right to make that decision for yourself.  

Everyone knows of someone who smoked a carton of cigarettes every day and lived to be 101.  That doesn&#039;t mean cigarettes are good for you. We can agree that &lt;b&gt;THC is perfectly safe and has never killed anyone.&lt;/b&gt;  But when its delivery system is burning smoke, there &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; a cancer risk.  That anyone would disagree with that is news to me.  Note that the cancer risk is NOT why the government claims pot should be illegal.  I&#039;ve never seen an anti-pot propaganda ad that even mentions cancer.   Also, note that I&#039;m not saying THC is carcinogenic.  It&#039;s not.

Also, none of your cites support your position that marijuana smoke contains no carcinogens and has never caused a single case of cancer in 5000 years of use.  Whether it&#039;s a good expectorant is irrelevant to that assertion.  If you&#039;re going to use cites, learn how to use them right to support your position.  If I say the color red has the longest wavelength of the visible spectrum, quotes about all the other colors are completely irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DdC: I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s dangerous, but it&#8217;s ignorant to think breathing smoke is good for you.  The bottom line is that you should have the right to make that decision for yourself.  </p>
<p>Everyone knows of someone who smoked a carton of cigarettes every day and lived to be 101.  That doesn&#8217;t mean cigarettes are good for you. We can agree that <b>THC is perfectly safe and has never killed anyone.</b>  But when its delivery system is burning smoke, there <i>is</i> a cancer risk.  That anyone would disagree with that is news to me.  Note that the cancer risk is NOT why the government claims pot should be illegal.  I&#8217;ve never seen an anti-pot propaganda ad that even mentions cancer.   Also, note that I&#8217;m not saying THC is carcinogenic.  It&#8217;s not.</p>
<p>Also, none of your cites support your position that marijuana smoke contains no carcinogens and has never caused a single case of cancer in 5000 years of use.  Whether it&#8217;s a good expectorant is irrelevant to that assertion.  If you&#8217;re going to use cites, learn how to use them right to support your position.  If I say the color red has the longest wavelength of the visible spectrum, quotes about all the other colors are completely irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: DdC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DdC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;one case of cancer?&lt;/I&gt;

Oh get real, name them or it ain&#039;t real. It&#039;s gossip.
40 years of daily toking and my lungs are fine.
With two tokes of a camel straight to prevent coughing.
Hundreds of cultures and thousands of years including kids using it medicinally. Keeping records on every herb including Ganja, except in the land of corporate whores, keeping a viable competition off the Wallmart St market. Simple, all your poltergeists do is keep the teabaggers marching to the &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.yahooka.com/forum/politics-current-affairs/150998-teabaggers-dick-army.html#post51803983&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dick Armey prohibition lobby.&lt;/A&gt;

Buzzwords and perpetuating soothsaying predictions. Miss Cleo presents potential maybe&#039;s and &quot;reasonable&quot;. 

&lt;I&gt;&lt;B&gt;&quot;The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.&quot;&lt;/B&gt;
-- George Bernard Shaw&lt;/I&gt;

We, until quite recently and still in many places survive with fires. Ganja as a natural protector is now doomed and gloomed with eeks of possibles and DEAth hypothesis. Bastardizing the farm industry with poisons, fossil fools spewing what hemp would eliminate. Because Nixon lied and you don&#039;t grow medical symptoms off of lies.

&lt;I&gt;&lt;B&gt;&quot;All research into the oxygen blood transfer effects caused by cannabis indicates that the chest (lung) pains, extremity pains, shallowness of breath, and headaches we may experience on heavy smog days are usually alleviated by light cannabis smoking throughout the day. However, heavy pot smoking works no better.&quot;&lt;/B&gt;
~ Dr. Donald Tashkin, the U.S. government’s leading scientist on marijuana pulmonary research, told us in December, 1989*, and again in December 1997, that you cannot get or potentiate emphysema with cannabis smoking!&lt;/I&gt;

Your theory would have gone with those &quot;majority of reasonables&quot; telling Wilber and Orval his pile of wood and hemp can&#039;t fly. No matter how much you profit on the drug war it ain&#039;t gonna change the laws of physics. Politics is mastering the art of Bullshit. When you start with Bullshit you have less to barter with. Your theory has absolutely no science other than a comparison to what has already been discussed , and obviously not read or comprehended. Its the chemicals added for your smoking pleasure, not in organic tobacco or Ganja, sage or fog. The Asthma inhalers kill thousands while Ganja has been known to stop a full blown attack. Your theory is beyond skepticism, its more of an agenda of chaos. 

&lt;I&gt;&lt;B&gt;&quot;By the 27th Century B.C.E., the Chinese cultivated “Ma” (cannabis hemp) for fiber, medicine, and herbal use. 3,700 years later (circa 1000 C.E.), China called cannabis “Tai-Ma,” or “great hemp,” to differentiate it from the minor fiber plants, which were grouped under the generic fiber term “Ma.” Their pictogram for true hemp is a large “man,” indicating the strong relationship between man and hemp.&quot;&lt;/B&gt;
~ Shen Nung Pharmacopoeia,
Ponts’ao Ching; Han Dynasty classics; et al.&lt;/I&gt;

Thousands of years of use and no records, when records were being kept. Like editing the bible, its what ain&#039;t there that should be that tells.  Your gossip hurts people and until you got something besides hunches that maybe water flowed up hill once and appeasement to the Fossil Fools, Booze and Pharmaceuticals. I reject your theory.

&lt;I&gt;&lt;B&gt;&quot;A tumor is a mass of swollen tissue. Cannabis is an incredibly successful herb for reducing many types of tumors, both benign and malignant (cancerous).&quot;&lt;/B&gt;
~ Researchers at the Medical College of Virginia&lt;/I&gt;

I don&#039;t care if an anomaly may could have might have or could possibly in the future horshit. It is or it isn&#039;t and so far in the real world of atoms and measurements there are no victims of cancer caused by Ganja. Vapor in the lungs is potentially a problem since lung moisture is called pneumonia.

&lt;I&gt;&lt;B&gt;“Taking a hit of marijuana has been known to stop a full blown asthma attack.”&lt;/B&gt;
~ Jack Herer
Personal communication with Dr. Donald Tashkin,
December 12, 1989, and December 1, 1997&lt;/I&gt;

You don&#039;t even recognize that more carcinogens are spewed in the traffic jams making more bucks for Exxon. And because of doubting perpetuators they won&#039;t be protected from the fumes. Or from these  local wild fires the central coast is experiencing. Hobgoblins kill.

&lt;I&gt;&lt;B&gt;&quot;Cannabis is the best natural expectorant to clear the human lungs of smog, dust, and the phlegm associated with tobacco use.&quot;&lt;/B&gt;
UCLA Tashkin studies, 1969-95
U.S. Costa Rican, 1980-82
Jamaican studies 1968-74&lt;/I&gt;

Ignorance breeds &quot;treatment&quot; and profits. Period. The only recognized part of the Ganja plant to smoke is the resinous &quot;bud&quot;.  The government IND schwagg sticks, seeds and leaves with 30% THC are not smokable, but ignorance also breeds censorship as tools of prohibition, in a toolbox of corporate synthetic killers.
Nixon lied... thats all folk&#039;s.

Clean Renewable Fuel outlawed do to gossip.

&lt;I&gt;&lt;B&gt;“Many of the claims regarding severe biologic impact are still uncertain, but some others are not. Despite the acceptance of the ‘new’ dangers of marijuana, there is still little evidence of biologic damage even among relatively heavy users. This is true even in the areas intensively investigated, such as pulmonary, immunologic, and reproductive function. Marijuana used in the USA has a higher THC content than in the past. Many critics have incorporated this fact into warnings, but the chief opposition to the drug rests on a moral and political, and not a toxicological, foundation.”&lt;/B&gt;
~ Merck Manual of Diagnosis and Therapy, Fifteenth Edition, 1987, Robert Berkow, M.D., Editor-in-Chief. Published by Merck Sharp and Dohme Research Laboratories Division of Merck and Co., Inc. (Pharmaceutical) Rahway, New Jersey, 1987.&lt;/I&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>one case of cancer?</i></p>
<p>Oh get real, name them or it ain&#8217;t real. It&#8217;s gossip.<br />
40 years of daily toking and my lungs are fine.<br />
With two tokes of a camel straight to prevent coughing.<br />
Hundreds of cultures and thousands of years including kids using it medicinally. Keeping records on every herb including Ganja, except in the land of corporate whores, keeping a viable competition off the Wallmart St market. Simple, all your poltergeists do is keep the teabaggers marching to the <a HREF="http://www.yahooka.com/forum/politics-current-affairs/150998-teabaggers-dick-army.html#post51803983" rel="nofollow">Dick Armey prohibition lobby.</a></p>
<p>Buzzwords and perpetuating soothsaying predictions. Miss Cleo presents potential maybe&#8217;s and &#8220;reasonable&#8221;. </p>
<p><i><b>&#8220;The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;<br />
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.&#8221;</b><br />
&#8211; George Bernard Shaw</i></p>
<p>We, until quite recently and still in many places survive with fires. Ganja as a natural protector is now doomed and gloomed with eeks of possibles and DEAth hypothesis. Bastardizing the farm industry with poisons, fossil fools spewing what hemp would eliminate. Because Nixon lied and you don&#8217;t grow medical symptoms off of lies.</p>
<p><i><b>&#8220;All research into the oxygen blood transfer effects caused by cannabis indicates that the chest (lung) pains, extremity pains, shallowness of breath, and headaches we may experience on heavy smog days are usually alleviated by light cannabis smoking throughout the day. However, heavy pot smoking works no better.&#8221;</b><br />
~ Dr. Donald Tashkin, the U.S. government’s leading scientist on marijuana pulmonary research, told us in December, 1989*, and again in December 1997, that you cannot get or potentiate emphysema with cannabis smoking!</i></p>
<p>Your theory would have gone with those &#8220;majority of reasonables&#8221; telling Wilber and Orval his pile of wood and hemp can&#8217;t fly. No matter how much you profit on the drug war it ain&#8217;t gonna change the laws of physics. Politics is mastering the art of Bullshit. When you start with Bullshit you have less to barter with. Your theory has absolutely no science other than a comparison to what has already been discussed , and obviously not read or comprehended. Its the chemicals added for your smoking pleasure, not in organic tobacco or Ganja, sage or fog. The Asthma inhalers kill thousands while Ganja has been known to stop a full blown attack. Your theory is beyond skepticism, its more of an agenda of chaos. </p>
<p><i><b>&#8220;By the 27th Century B.C.E., the Chinese cultivated “Ma” (cannabis hemp) for fiber, medicine, and herbal use. 3,700 years later (circa 1000 C.E.), China called cannabis “Tai-Ma,” or “great hemp,” to differentiate it from the minor fiber plants, which were grouped under the generic fiber term “Ma.” Their pictogram for true hemp is a large “man,” indicating the strong relationship between man and hemp.&#8221;</b><br />
~ Shen Nung Pharmacopoeia,<br />
Ponts’ao Ching; Han Dynasty classics; et al.</i></p>
<p>Thousands of years of use and no records, when records were being kept. Like editing the bible, its what ain&#8217;t there that should be that tells.  Your gossip hurts people and until you got something besides hunches that maybe water flowed up hill once and appeasement to the Fossil Fools, Booze and Pharmaceuticals. I reject your theory.</p>
<p><i><b>&#8220;A tumor is a mass of swollen tissue. Cannabis is an incredibly successful herb for reducing many types of tumors, both benign and malignant (cancerous).&#8221;</b><br />
~ Researchers at the Medical College of Virginia</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care if an anomaly may could have might have or could possibly in the future horshit. It is or it isn&#8217;t and so far in the real world of atoms and measurements there are no victims of cancer caused by Ganja. Vapor in the lungs is potentially a problem since lung moisture is called pneumonia.</p>
<p><i><b>“Taking a hit of marijuana has been known to stop a full blown asthma attack.”</b><br />
~ Jack Herer<br />
Personal communication with Dr. Donald Tashkin,<br />
December 12, 1989, and December 1, 1997</i></p>
<p>You don&#8217;t even recognize that more carcinogens are spewed in the traffic jams making more bucks for Exxon. And because of doubting perpetuators they won&#8217;t be protected from the fumes. Or from these  local wild fires the central coast is experiencing. Hobgoblins kill.</p>
<p><i><b>&#8220;Cannabis is the best natural expectorant to clear the human lungs of smog, dust, and the phlegm associated with tobacco use.&#8221;</b><br />
UCLA Tashkin studies, 1969-95<br />
U.S. Costa Rican, 1980-82<br />
Jamaican studies 1968-74</i></p>
<p>Ignorance breeds &#8220;treatment&#8221; and profits. Period. The only recognized part of the Ganja plant to smoke is the resinous &#8220;bud&#8221;.  The government IND schwagg sticks, seeds and leaves with 30% THC are not smokable, but ignorance also breeds censorship as tools of prohibition, in a toolbox of corporate synthetic killers.<br />
Nixon lied&#8230; thats all folk&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Clean Renewable Fuel outlawed do to gossip.</p>
<p><i><b>“Many of the claims regarding severe biologic impact are still uncertain, but some others are not. Despite the acceptance of the ‘new’ dangers of marijuana, there is still little evidence of biologic damage even among relatively heavy users. This is true even in the areas intensively investigated, such as pulmonary, immunologic, and reproductive function. Marijuana used in the USA has a higher THC content than in the past. Many critics have incorporated this fact into warnings, but the chief opposition to the drug rests on a moral and political, and not a toxicological, foundation.”</b><br />
~ Merck Manual of Diagnosis and Therapy, Fifteenth Edition, 1987, Robert Berkow, M.D., Editor-in-Chief. Published by Merck Sharp and Dohme Research Laboratories Division of Merck and Co., Inc. (Pharmaceutical) Rahway, New Jersey, 1987.</i></p>
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		<title>By: BruceM</title>
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		<dc:creator>BruceM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 05:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DdC you don&#039;t know that in 5000 years of smoking pot there has not been one case of cancer.  Insofar as there may have been less cancer 4000 years ago, it was because people didn&#039;t live long enough to get it.  The life expectancy was 24 years old, with most people getting killed by the big foot of a wooly mammoth.  As such, few people would live long enough to get cancer.  Inhaling smoke is never good for you, but you should be free to do it.  However bad smoke is for you, prison is far worse for your health.

As for that study, what does it say about lung/throat cancer?  Come on, that&#039;s like those studies that come out every few years, based on questionable sample groups, saying that bacon grease is good for your heart.  A reasonable person simply would not believe that inhaling smoke is good for your health.  At least not with respect to causing lung/throat cancer - it may be good for other aspects of your health (pain relief, etc.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DdC you don&#8217;t know that in 5000 years of smoking pot there has not been one case of cancer.  Insofar as there may have been less cancer 4000 years ago, it was because people didn&#8217;t live long enough to get it.  The life expectancy was 24 years old, with most people getting killed by the big foot of a wooly mammoth.  As such, few people would live long enough to get cancer.  Inhaling smoke is never good for you, but you should be free to do it.  However bad smoke is for you, prison is far worse for your health.</p>
<p>As for that study, what does it say about lung/throat cancer?  Come on, that&#8217;s like those studies that come out every few years, based on questionable sample groups, saying that bacon grease is good for your heart.  A reasonable person simply would not believe that inhaling smoke is good for your health.  At least not with respect to causing lung/throat cancer &#8211; it may be good for other aspects of your health (pain relief, etc.).</p>
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		<title>By: DdC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DdC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.opensalon.com/blog/brinna_nanda/2009/08/09/weve_known_since_1974_that_cannabis_halts_cancer_and&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New study affirms smoked marijuana anti-cancer properties&lt;/A&gt;
Aug 11 2009
Researchers say 10 to 20 years of marijuana use was associated with a significantly reduced risk of head and neck squamous cell carcinoma.</description>
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Aug 11 2009<br />
Researchers say 10 to 20 years of marijuana use was associated with a significantly reduced risk of head and neck squamous cell carcinoma.</p>
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		<title>By: allan420</title>
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		<dc:creator>allan420</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s this use of statistics that makes the word &quot;obfuscate&quot; a drug war key word. Hope it&#039;s in &lt;i&gt;Gil&#039;s Dictionary&lt;/i&gt;.

... and yeah life is carcinogenic. Have any studies ever been done comparing the smoke contents from joints, bongs and vaporizers? I love a good bong and nothing beats the old bamboo originals. Bongs are ancient... I&#039;ve heard tell that there is a mural in a monastery somewhere in Thailand showing monkeys smoking bongs. &lt;i&gt;fwiw&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s this use of statistics that makes the word &#8220;obfuscate&#8221; a drug war key word. Hope it&#8217;s in <i>Gil&#8217;s Dictionary</i>.</p>
<p>&#8230; and yeah life is carcinogenic. Have any studies ever been done comparing the smoke contents from joints, bongs and vaporizers? I love a good bong and nothing beats the old bamboo originals. Bongs are ancient&#8230; I&#8217;ve heard tell that there is a mural in a monastery somewhere in Thailand showing monkeys smoking bongs. <i>fwiw</i></p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure Pete has pointed this out before, but to me, the really glaring omission in the government&#039;s arguments about marijuana is the complete absence of any death statistics.  They have to try desperately to frame the argument so that it&#039;s about treatment, not mortality, since using the latter would automatically lose the argument for them, not to mention any credibility they have left with the citizenry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure Pete has pointed this out before, but to me, the really glaring omission in the government&#8217;s arguments about marijuana is the complete absence of any death statistics.  They have to try desperately to frame the argument so that it&#8217;s about treatment, not mortality, since using the latter would automatically lose the argument for them, not to mention any credibility they have left with the citizenry.</p>
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		<title>By: DdC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DdC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smoke contains carcinogens.

air contains carcinogens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smoke contains carcinogens.</p>
<p>air contains carcinogens.</p>
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		<title>By: DdC</title>
		<link>http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/08/treatment-statistics-or-one-more-way-they-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-214</link>
		<dc:creator>DdC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;5000 years of toking Ganja = No cancer no mortally wounded.
1000? years of organic tobacco use = No cancer no mortally wounded.
20th century adulteration of tobacco with chemicals = 100&#039;s of thousands of deaths per year. So yes there are some of the same burned chemicals in all 3 groups going to show up under a microscope, but there is no comparison or carcinigen connection. Only not dealing with what is really harming smokers, with the poor getting more with generic brands. More taxes to treat with the same drugs companies adding the chemicals to the tobacco.  Ganja is an expectorant and anti-cancer doesn&#039;t bode well with cancer. Gossip only prevents it from preventing cancer, reality&#039;s a bitch.

&lt;B&gt;&quot;Users in our matched-pair sample smoked marijuana in addition to as many tobacco cigarettes as did their matched non-using pairs. Yet their small airways were, if anything, a bit healthier than their matches. We must tentatively conclude either that marijuana has no harmful effect on such passages or that it actually offers some slight protection against harmful effects of tobacco smoke&quot;&lt;/B&gt;
~ Cannabis in Costa Rica,
A Study of Chronic Marijuana Use; Institute of Human Issues.&lt;/I&gt;

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/444&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Organic Cannabis/Tobacco vs Chemical Cigarettes&lt;/A&gt;

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/435&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cannabis Less Risky Than Alcohol/Tobacco, Says Report&lt;/A&gt;

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/443&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cancer risk in relation to radioactivity in tobacco&lt;/A&gt;

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/583&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CANNABIS AND TOBACCO&lt;/A&gt;

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=459&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nixon lied to schedule Ganja #1&lt;/A&gt;

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1589&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Ganjawar Fraud&lt;/A&gt;

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/367/t/The-Virtues-of-Ganja.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Virtues&#039; of Ganja&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>5000 years of toking Ganja = No cancer no mortally wounded.<br />
1000? years of organic tobacco use = No cancer no mortally wounded.<br />
20th century adulteration of tobacco with chemicals = 100&#8242;s of thousands of deaths per year. So yes there are some of the same burned chemicals in all 3 groups going to show up under a microscope, but there is no comparison or carcinigen connection. Only not dealing with what is really harming smokers, with the poor getting more with generic brands. More taxes to treat with the same drugs companies adding the chemicals to the tobacco.  Ganja is an expectorant and anti-cancer doesn&#8217;t bode well with cancer. Gossip only prevents it from preventing cancer, reality&#8217;s a bitch.</p>
<p><b>&#8220;Users in our matched-pair sample smoked marijuana in addition to as many tobacco cigarettes as did their matched non-using pairs. Yet their small airways were, if anything, a bit healthier than their matches. We must tentatively conclude either that marijuana has no harmful effect on such passages or that it actually offers some slight protection against harmful effects of tobacco smoke&#8221;</b><br />
~ Cannabis in Costa Rica,<br />
A Study of Chronic Marijuana Use; Institute of Human Issues.</i></p>
<p><a HREF="http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/444" rel="nofollow">Organic Cannabis/Tobacco vs Chemical Cigarettes</a></p>
<p><a HREF="http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/435" rel="nofollow">Cannabis Less Risky Than Alcohol/Tobacco, Says Report</a></p>
<p><a HREF="http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/443" rel="nofollow">Cancer risk in relation to radioactivity in tobacco</a></p>
<p><a HREF="http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/583" rel="nofollow">CANNABIS AND TOBACCO</a></p>
<p><a HREF="http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=459" rel="nofollow">Nixon lied to schedule Ganja #1</a></p>
<p><a HREF="http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1589" rel="nofollow">The Ganjawar Fraud</a></p>
<p><a HREF="http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/367/t/The-Virtues-of-Ganja.html" rel="nofollow">Virtues&#8217; of Ganja</a></p>
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