Comments on: How much say should addicts have on drug policy? http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/08/how-much-say-should-addicts-have/ by Pete Guither Sat, 11 Feb 2012 18:43:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: BruceM http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/08/how-much-say-should-addicts-have/comment-page-1/#comment-631 BruceM Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:59:10 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=3998#comment-631 Nhop: 99% of people who adamantly support decriminalization of marijuana (or just "medical marijuana") implicitly support prohibition for all other drugs. It's so selfish to only advocate decriminalization for your own drug of choice, while conceding that all other drugs are properly criminalized. I can't stand people like that. Nhop: 99% of people who adamantly support decriminalization of marijuana (or just “medical marijuana”) implicitly support prohibition for all other drugs. It’s so selfish to only advocate decriminalization for your own drug of choice, while conceding that all other drugs are properly criminalized. I can’t stand people like that.

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]]> By: Nhop http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/08/how-much-say-should-addicts-have/comment-page-1/#comment-628 Nhop Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:07:28 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=3998#comment-628 Unfortunately in the society we have today most people not involved with or knowledgeable about drugs, ie the "normal" person, still believes prohibition to be desirable and effective. We are starting to have an impact there, but we have a long way to go. In my opinion, if we had a vote today on whether to legalize drugs, we would probably lose. But if we continue to educate people to the realities of the prohibition system, its immorality and its ineffectiveness, we will get there. Thats why this website & people like Pete are so important. Unfortunately in the society we have today most people not involved with or knowledgeable about drugs, ie the “normal” person, still believes prohibition to be desirable and effective. We are starting to have an impact there, but we have a long way to go. In my opinion, if we had a vote today on whether to legalize drugs, we would probably lose. But if we continue to educate people to the realities of the prohibition system, its immorality and its ineffectiveness, we will get there. Thats why this website & people like Pete are so important.

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]]> By: BruceM http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/08/how-much-say-should-addicts-have/comment-page-1/#comment-559 BruceM Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:19:08 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=3998#comment-559 I believe that people with vested interests in policy should have NO SAY in that policy. We shouldn't let victims of DWI accidents have a say in the penalties for DWI any more than we should let alcoholics have a say in the penalties for DWI. Whether something should be a crime is no different. Take away the opinions all the drug addicts, recreational users, as well as the police and drug warriors (anyone who has so much as one dollar vested in preserving drug prohibition - including the drug cartels), and you'll be left with opinions of reasonable, dispassionate people who can make a decision based on reason and facts, rather than their own self-interest. Decisions made on self-interest are bad decisions. note: this is why democracy does not work. I believe that people with vested interests in policy should have NO SAY in that policy. We shouldn’t let victims of DWI accidents have a say in the penalties for DWI any more than we should let alcoholics have a say in the penalties for DWI.

Whether something should be a crime is no different. Take away the opinions all the drug addicts, recreational users, as well as the police and drug warriors (anyone who has so much as one dollar vested in preserving drug prohibition – including the drug cartels), and you’ll be left with opinions of reasonable, dispassionate people who can make a decision based on reason and facts, rather than their own self-interest. Decisions made on self-interest are bad decisions.

note: this is why democracy does not work.

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]]> By: warren http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/08/how-much-say-should-addicts-have/comment-page-1/#comment-556 warren Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:29:10 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=3998#comment-556 I`m an alcohol addict. Alcohol is every where i`ts legal. My observation is some of these people want to be beat up with jail. They don`t feel WORTHY. Alcohol almost killed me I`m still alive since 1986. Meetings, counseling,reading, rehabs save me. Not some stinking jail,or closed mind cops or judges. The longer we stay away from a substance the less we feel we need closed mind boneheads. Long live mj and don`t give me any moralistic bullshit when or if I have a problem with marijuana I`ll seek help the correct way which I stated before. I`m an alcohol addict. Alcohol is every where i`ts legal. My observation is some of these people want to be beat up with jail. They don`t feel WORTHY. Alcohol almost killed me I`m still alive since 1986. Meetings, counseling,reading, rehabs save me. Not some stinking jail,or closed mind cops or judges. The longer we stay away from a substance the less we feel we need closed mind boneheads. Long live mj and don`t give me any moralistic bullshit when or if I have a problem with marijuana I`ll seek help the correct way which I stated before.

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]]> By: permanentilt http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/08/how-much-say-should-addicts-have/comment-page-1/#comment-552 permanentilt Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:46:43 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=3998#comment-552 dmac, LoZelda isn't just a gateway to more Zelda games, you miss the important point that it is a gateway to the most destructive games of all, MMORPGS!!!!! These games have destroyed far more lives than some plant ever could! LoZ is a direct line to never leaving your computer chair (much less your apartment), gaining 200 pounds on a diet of cheetos and redbull, face paler than a monk's ass, speaking only in the barely decipherable language of "OMG WTFPWND NUBZZZZZ!!1!!1!11!!!1" while trying incessantly to get that DAMNED RING TO DROP!!! Very gateway indeed..... dmac, LoZelda isn’t just a gateway to more Zelda games, you miss the important point that it is a gateway to the most destructive games of all, MMORPGS!!!!!

These games have destroyed far more lives than some plant ever could!

LoZ is a direct line to never leaving your computer chair (much less your apartment), gaining 200 pounds on a diet of cheetos and redbull, face paler than a monk’s ass, speaking only in the barely decipherable language of “OMG WTFPWND NUBZZZZZ!!1!!1!11!!!1″ while trying incessantly to get that DAMNED RING TO DROP!!!

Very gateway indeed…..

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]]> By: dmac http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/08/how-much-say-should-addicts-have/comment-page-1/#comment-532 dmac Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:27:50 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=3998#comment-532 The Legend of Zelda is your classic gateway game. It pretty quickly leads to Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, then The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, and eventually you just can't stop playing Zelda: Twilight Princess for Nintendo Wii. The Legend of Zelda is your classic gateway game. It pretty quickly leads to Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, then The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, and eventually you just can’t stop playing Zelda: Twilight Princess for Nintendo Wii.

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]]> By: DdC http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/08/how-much-say-should-addicts-have/comment-page-1/#comment-526 DdC Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:27:12 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=3998#comment-526 I think junkies who quit or are forced into retirement, are called dry drunks? With an over zealousness to stop others. Glum Bluck is an x alcoholic and so naturally everyone has to find the happiness he has found lying and gossiping on faux news. Almost every drug paranoid worrier has some profit in rehab or prison paraphernalia. Caliphony or Straight Inc Calvina all earn a living off the misery they cause others. I think they're flat out control freaks, way past co dependency. The corporations fearing competition play them like fiddles. Now ain't that America, home of the free baby. I'd like to see how the football fans act if they pull an intervention and remove Sunday games from TV. Maybe the cops and pisstasters drug of choice is persecuting vulnerable citizens. It must release a chemical that makes them high as hell. More addictive than heroin if you listen to them plead for it to continue. DEAth Merchant politicians mainlining falsehoods and draconian coercion. They even steal like junkies needing a fix, called confiscations and forfeitures. Sick bosstards. They need help. Book em Danno. Here's another x spurt spewing lies. <B>Just when you think its safe to go into the water...</B> <a HREF="http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v09/n809/a06.html?102" rel="nofollow">So-Called Medical Marijuana Is a Con</A> <I>Ric Llewellyn is one of four conservative community columnists whose work appears here every Saturday. These are the opinions of Llewellyn, not necessarily The Californian's.</I> <B>Or Americans. Is this a joke? His name is lies well in?</B> I think junkies who quit or are forced into retirement, are called dry drunks? With an over zealousness to stop others. Glum Bluck is an x alcoholic and so naturally everyone has to find the happiness he has found lying and gossiping on faux news. Almost every drug paranoid worrier has some profit in rehab or prison paraphernalia. Caliphony or Straight Inc Calvina all earn a living off the misery they cause others. I think they’re flat out control freaks, way past co dependency. The corporations fearing competition play them like fiddles. Now ain’t that America, home of the free baby. I’d like to see how the football fans act if they pull an intervention and remove Sunday games from TV. Maybe the cops and pisstasters drug of choice is persecuting vulnerable citizens. It must release a chemical that makes them high as hell. More addictive than heroin if you listen to them plead for it to continue. DEAth Merchant politicians mainlining falsehoods and draconian coercion. They even steal like junkies needing a fix, called confiscations and forfeitures. Sick bosstards. They need help. Book em Danno. Here’s another x spurt spewing lies.

Just when you think its safe to go into the water…

So-Called Medical Marijuana Is a Con
Ric Llewellyn is one of four conservative community columnists whose work appears here every Saturday. These are the opinions of Llewellyn, not necessarily The Californian’s.

Or Americans. Is this a joke? His name is lies well in?

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]]> By: permanentilt http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/08/how-much-say-should-addicts-have/comment-page-1/#comment-525 permanentilt Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:26:07 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=3998#comment-525 I still know where every ring, "secret to everyone", sword, staircase, triforce, etc... is in the original Zelda. You want to talk about an addict, I contend that it should be required playing in school! Back on topic tho, ironically I bet you could find a lot more non-addicted people who support this law. People getting over addiction have reached the desperate point where they believe that they must completely change their idea about the substance to get over it. They are very wrong, and this bipolar attitude is what inevitably leads to relapse. I still know where every ring, “secret to everyone”, sword, staircase, triforce, etc… is in the original Zelda. You want to talk about an addict, I contend that it should be required playing in school!

Back on topic tho, ironically I bet you could find a lot more non-addicted people who support this law. People getting over addiction have reached the desperate point where they believe that they must completely change their idea about the substance to get over it. They are very wrong, and this bipolar attitude is what inevitably leads to relapse.

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]]> By: Pete http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/08/how-much-say-should-addicts-have/comment-page-1/#comment-524 Pete Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:51:26 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=3998#comment-524 Ah, Brian, are you saying you have a little bit of an addiction problem, there? I know I did at one time - back with The Legend of Zelda on NES. But I managed to quit without SWAT busting down my door. Note: For those who loved The Legend of Zelda, you may want to check out <a href="http://www.effinfunny.com/legend-of-neil" rel="nofollow">The Legend of Neil</a>, a NSFW life-action video parody series of the Zelda world, now in its second season. Ah, Brian, are you saying you have a little bit of an addiction problem, there? I know I did at one time – back with The Legend of Zelda on NES. But I managed to quit without SWAT busting down my door.

Note: For those who loved The Legend of Zelda, you may want to check out The Legend of Neil, a NSFW life-action video parody series of the Zelda world, now in its second season.

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]]> By: brian bennett http://www.drugwarrant.com/2009/08/how-much-say-should-addicts-have/comment-page-1/#comment-522 brian bennett Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:24:41 +0000 http://www.drugwarrant.com/?p=3998#comment-522 Pete, I'm gonna have to ask you to leave Zelda off the list of prohibitions. Pete, I’m gonna have to ask you to leave Zelda off the list of prohibitions.

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